Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160820001629/@comment-24067344-20160824155011

DaughterOfHectate wrote: Kind of against the point but I think it would be 50-50 if those two fought. Also I think it would depend on where they fought. If they were on a boat or surrounded by water, where Nico can't pull skeletons from the ground and where Percy is surrounded by water, Percy would likely win. Alternatively, if there was a landlocked battle with no water supply anywhere (eg nothing underground, or no river anywhere etc), then Nico would have the upper hand to manipulate the ground or summon skeletons. Though even away from skeletons under his control, Nico can turn people into ghosts- suggesting that even in Percy's element, Nico would still have awesome amounts of power.

But bros don't fight so it's all okay haha ^.^

Another point- whilst I think it would be an even match, I think a frame of reference would be past demigods. Hazel described Pluto's appearance in SoN as "like that awful Adolph Hitler...He could've been Hitler's twin- or his father" (pg 74 in my edition). The promise of the Big Three not having more children was because they were too powerful and caused too many wars, so I always assumed that in the PJ universe, WWII was caused by two children of the Big Three ((nb- I don't mean to trivialise the World Wars because they were terrible and tragic events, but only to reference when the PJ/HoO books themselves mention the World Wars)). If Hades/Pluto lost there, they might lose again. But that was a war, and not hand to hand combat against two demigods.

And so again, I'd say it's an even match lol

First of all, it's already been mentioned that Nico cannot summon skeletons, for various reasons. Please read the comments section before you post yours. Second of all, they said that it wouldn't be fair if only one could use their powers to their full extent, meaning it has to be in a neutral area, where both can use their powers to their full extent. Also, about Nico ghostifying people, stop posting that without looking at the arguments, look at mines or Oceanhalo's 12 for example. It's going to get tiring of repeating the same arguments over and over again. Also, you are really limiting Percy's diverse water powers, the fact that Percy destroys Nico in combat, that water gives Percy twice as much power than Nico, Nico getting hell tired using his powers, Percy's hurricanes as a defense against Nico. There are to many advantage that Percy has, despite Nico being extremely powerful. Without Shadow Travel, summoning Skeleton armies, bones than can be deflected by Percy's hurricanes, the only other option is putting people asleep, which only happened once: "Way ahead of you." He stroked Blackjack's muzzle." I sense 2 mortals asleep in the main cabin. Nobody else. I'm no child of Hypnos, but I sent some deep dreams their way. Should be enough to keep them snoozing until well after sunrise."

If you can give me other quotes of Nico doing this, I'm afraid this is the only moment he did this. What I can see from this is, that Nico can only send deep dreams to people, only when they are asleep, not awake, meaning this power is useless, or he would've used it on the Romans in battle, sending them dreams, which he didn't. Until you give me information of Nico doing this in battle, and being able too, I'm afraid this power is limited as well. Though, he does have the power to put skeletons to sleep though.

So, Nico can't make Percy asleep in battle since it can only happen when people are asleep. So, I'm afraid this power can't be used either.

So, lets see: No making demigods go to sleep by sending deep dreams if they aren't asleep, no shadow travel, no summoning skeleton armies, Nico summoning bones while Percy can deflect them with his hurricanes, can't ghostify without Reyna's help and killing himself, and according to what Oceanhalo 12 said:"And I think that's only to souls who cheated/escaped or used their parentage to evade Death." (Since Nico believed he was from the underworld who escaped), if it's true, being worse than Percy in combat. Well, I think we have a winner. The only other power Nico has is geokinesis, which won't be very useful above ground since he barely does it, Percy not being afraid of Nico, meaning no induced fear. I believe Percy is the winner.