Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20170505164419/@comment-29729973-20170515060258

Mar-the-Queen wrote: Shootingdragonnova wrote: Mar-the-Queen wrote: Commander Tool Belt wrote: I don't think we're giving Hephaestus enough credit. He is very clever and has some cool machines and weapons. Athena is clever too, but someone who can build all those stuff is definitely very smart. And Hera also mentions choosing Leo because he was clever. I agree! A lot of people are saying Athena, and don't get me wrong, Athena is powerful and a great fighter, but we can't underestimate Hephaestus. Hephaestus is strong and can be pretty clever, not to mention all the amazing machines he can make. I'm going with tie, since they're both great at fighting in their own way, but I know Athena will win because she's more popular in the fandom. Okay, I doubt Hephaestus can win in this fight. Hephaestus can throw fire but we forgot all about Athena's Aegis cloak and Aegis shield. She can use the cloak to deflect the fire so that power is countered. Technokinesis is ruled out because there is no prep time and Hephaestus can't build something without getting stabbed. Hephaestus definitely can't beat Athena in close range combat as he isn't even probably trained. And Hephaestus and Athena are smart in different ways. Athena is battle tactics and Hephaestus is the inventor or mechanic way. They are both useful but in a intense fight like this, Athena's type of power is much more useful.

I never said that Hephaestus would win, I said that people are underestimating Hephaestus. A lot of people are just assuming Athena would easily win without having to put up a good fight, and honestly, that's not necessarily true. You have a point, Athena does have an advantage during a fight like this since it's in her element, but I'll be dammed if Hephaestus doesn't have an automaton he can quickly summon during a fight.

I just get really irritated when people comment some name without any justification, like it's the easiest thing in the world. But I suppose it is the easiest thing in the world for them, since they just comment who they like the most. You do know this is a no prep fight right? No machines for Hephaestus. You can't assume that everyone who thinks this an easy fight is biased. I honestly think this is an easy fight for Athena, but I like Hephaestus more than Athena. I know you guys probably think I'm really underestimating Leo's dad here, but COME ON! This is basically Athena's domain, this is a FIGHT, while Athena is a clever, strong, skilled, tactical, and fast warrior, who's be trained as a warrior for her whole life, Hephaestus is a tinkerer; a strong one sure, but who basically has no real experience with real fighting, besides of just hurling his hammer all over the place, like a drunk bafoon. I don't see how this fight is any different of a fight between Leo and Percy...UNDERWATER. Look without his machines, all Hephaestus got left is his fire and his hammer. But Athena has a shield that can block his fire or could just dodge it, and Hephaestus is not trained with his hammer in terms of combat. Yes, Hephaestus is clever.........with a hammer and some tools, but this is combat. Sure as hell, that besides of just randomly shooting fire and swinging his hammer, Hephaestus doesn't know crap about combat. So I'm deeply confused on how you guys keep using the term "clever" for Hephaestus favor, in this kind of situation. With his jacked up legs and clumsy body, is Hephaestus even fast enough to lay a hit on Athena, without her just dodging it?

Sure, if this was a building contest or a weight lifting contest or a contest on who can smell worse or a contest on who can grow more hair, then Hephaestus all-day bruh.

But this is COMBAT. So unless this is a prep fight, I honestly really don't see Hephaestus winning. Athena wins 9.5/10