Board Thread:The Trials of Apollo/@comment-30169833-20180503113236/@comment-35757203-20180603150158

Bluebookworm14 wrote: Rhaeroga wrote: Nico loses another person.

Really, Rick? What did he ever do to you? Smh.

Now, bring him back and take Piper. No one wants that thot around.

Don't get me wrong, Jason is definitely NOT a fan favorite. He and Piper are incredibly undeveloped.

Frank has potential, and he already had development when he threatened that corn god (or farmer god?). Hazel's curse still needs to be lifted, which means neither she nor Percy are done with quests, as he's meant to break it.

Just.... don't make me look at Piper.... Have Khione come back and freeze her throat at least, so I don't have to read her whiny lines... I agreed until you called Piper a thot.

(And yes, I'm aware that this is a discussion about the Burning Maze and I really shouldn't be adding to the countless Jason/Piper discussions, but...I NEED to defend my girl!)

Why do so many people hate Piper? How, exactly, does she come across as whiny? Piper's a reckless, confident character who's actually really insecure because she's always overlooked as the daughter of Aphrodite, so she starts to overlook herself. It's amplified by the fact that she's not seen in most people's eyes as a really 'powerful' person, even though she is, but her friends are. She's relatable because sometimes she shrugs and says, 'Screw it,' and goes with her gut instead of her head. Piper's all about emotion, and of course that would affect her character in good ways and bad.

(P.S. About Frank? Someone please get him some more appreciation. That child deserves CREDIT!)

(P.P.S. Message to the HOO fandom: please accept the fact that focusing on one couple throughout five books is a lot easier to develop than balancing five--not to mention friendships--new relationships throughout the span of five books, especially when there's only a limited amount of POVs in each book. Just because a relationship isn't Percabeth and 'only' took a year instead of five doesn't automatically make it forced and rushed and invalid.)

Dude.. Amen. Again, i know this isn’t a talk about Jasper but i gotta defend my Girl Pipes too lol. I agree with everything you said. The hate they get makes no sense. People say Piper is too obsessed with Jason but i mean, for one thing she is a teenage girl that is in love, and for 2 she is a teenage girl that is in love who is the daughter of APHRODITE, the freaking goddess of love so honestly people, what do you expect? Piper is not at all useless. Without her they wouldn’t even have been able to defeat Gaia. Piper only proves herself time and time again throughout the series. She matures as a character and she learns many things that influence her. She went from being a shy girl unsure of herself and embarrassed by her Godly parent to a Girl who is now confident in her own abilities, parenthood, and is following her gut senses and emotions. She constantly proves that she isn't only a child of Aphrodite who only cares sbout her looks like so many prople believe about the children of Aphrodite. Without her, the 7 could have never succeeded. Also like you said, in no way do I believe that Jason and Piper were undeveloped. Sure compared to Percy and Annabeth it may seem like it, but people have to take in consideration that Jasper didn’t have 5 books all to themselves to focus on them. Rick had to juggle about 9 main characters, and many different relationships. So for the end result i think he did a pretty damn good job. In real life some people can take a year to date, and then get married. Its not necessarily rushed if they know they found who they want to be with the rest of their life. For Jason and Piper to date after a year is not rushed at all. It makes perfect sense. They had more than enough time to bond and i mean they went through a life or death quest in TLH, which obviously brought them even closer together. So taking all this in consideration and even the extra 8 months they had from THL to TSoN, their relationship makes perfect sense and to me Jasper will always be my favorite. (Yeah i know they broke up but thats a completely different conversation i already started on one of my threads lol)