Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160902235812/@comment-24067344-20161221212548

Oceanhalo12 wrote: Thunderman2007 wrote: You can't actually decide. They are both heroes of Olympus, they both killed Titans, they are both children of big three, they might have killed the same amount of Giants (I'm not sure), they both have learned at CHB and CJ. So based on the information, they are equally powerful. Ahh nope Percy has killed more Giants/Titans than Jason, Jason fought Encalaudus with Piper and Leo but Percy fought Polybotes by himself(Terminius was just god-support.).

Percy has defeated Hyperion,Kronos,Polybotes, Iapetus,Otis(twice), Ephialtes(twice).

Jason had defeated Krios,Encaladus(w.help),Polybotes,Otis,Ephialtes

Let's get some things straight.

First of all, Kronos. I'm startign to get the feeling that this is now one of Percy's most underrated achievements. Being able to fight this Titan alone, with is mere willpower and strength is absolutely incredilbe. He was able to hold his own against Kronos+Luke w/h curse of achilles on the boat by himself, with no aid at all. Percy didn't have the curse of achilles, yet was able to held his own against Kronos himself. Here's an example of how Percy could've injured Kronos if it weren't for the curse of achilles, so yeah, here's the part: "I stumbled backward, switched my sword to my left hand, and lunged desperately. My blade should've run him through, but it deflected off his stomach like I was hitting solid marble. There was no way he should've survived that."

And yet Kronos did survive it, cause he had the curse of achilles. Also, Percy himself was able to overcome the curse, something that not even Jason would've been able to do: "Suddenly there was a wrenching pain in my gut. The entire boat lurched sideways, throwing monsters off their feet. Four thousand gallons of salt water surged out of the swimming pool, dousing me and Kronos and everyone on the deck. The water revitalized me, breaking the time spell, and I lunged forward."

You think fighting Kronos is a piece of cake right? And let me remind you that this is Percy without the curse of Achilles, while Kronos had all of Luke's skill+the curse of Achilles. Yeah, I don't think Jason woul've been able to do what Percy did.

Percy fights later with Kronos several times more, but I think this was his most impressive fight against him, considering all the odds that were against him. Let me mention, once Percy got equal with Kronos with the curse of Achilles he was exactly equal, when it came to strength, which show how powerful he is when it comes to sword-fighting: "I met [Kronos'] first strike with Riptide. The impact shook the entire bridge, but I held my ground. Kronos' smile wavered." pg. 191

Oh, and did I mention, before Percy fought Kronos the second time, he had to kill, oh, about 200 monsters?

"I sliced through armor like it was made of paper. Snake woman exploded. Hellhounds melted into shadow. I slashed and stabbed and whirled, and I might have even laughed once or twice-a crazy laugh that scared me as much as it did my enemies. I was aware of the Apollo campers behind me shooting arrows, disrupting any attempt by the enemy to rally. Finally, the monsters turned and fled-about twenty out of two hundred." pg. 188

And did you forget the fact that the curse of Achilles tires Percy a lot faster than ever before? Here's the quote talking about this: "You may be invulnerable in combat," Chiron said. "But that will only make your body tire faster. I remember Achilles. Whenever that lad was not fighting, he was sleeping. He must've taken twenty naps a day."pg. 280

Yeah, Percy being able to hold his ground against Kronos equally and fight almost 200 monsters is no simple feat. And let's not forget that Kronos had the curse of Achilles as well, oh and the fact that the curse of Achilles tired Percy a lot faster.

Second of all, Iapetus. This is also one of Percy's most underrated achievements. Despite having Thalia and Nico at his side, they were basically useless and could've even injure Iapetus, or weaken him. One the other hand, Percy was...

And yet, he was able to dodge Iapetus's attacks: 'Even weakened and just out of the pit, this guy was fast. He moved like a tornado, slashing so quickly I barely had time to dodge the strike before his spear impaled the rock where I'd been standing" pgs. 125-126

You might say that Iapetus was weakened and she just came out of the pit, which the quote literally says. Ah, but you forget the status in which Percy was in....

Not only did he had to control the River Lethe, but he was massively injured: "I raised my arms like I was lifting something over my head. My bad shoulder burned like lava, but I tried to ignore it. The river rose. It surged out of its banks, flowing up and then down again in a great arc-a raging black rainbow of water twenty feet high.. The riverbed in front of us turned to drying mud, a tunnel under the river just wide enough for two people to walk side by side."pg. 117.

And yet, of the big 3, only Percy was able to defeat Iapetus, while being the only one that was injured. I wonder if Jason could've done something similar, which I believe he couldn't...I mean, Percy has shown time and time again, that he has far more durability than Jason. I mean, look:

Jason get hit by brick, he faints. Jason get hit by a sword, almost dies. While Percy gets hit by the curse of Phineas while having a dozen more curses hitting him, and yet was able to fight. Or how about time where Percy got hit deadly by Porphyrion?: "Porphyrion backhanded Percy like a pesky fly. The son of Poseidon flew into a column with a sickening crunch...Percy tried to stand, but he was obviously dazed."...and yet, a while later, he was holding his own against a FREAKING GIANT, while still being dazed: "Percy was back on his feet, Riptide once again in his hands. He still looked dazed. His nose was bleeding. But he seemed to be holding his own against the old giant Thoon, who had somehow reattached his hand and found his meat cleaver." pgs. 408-409.

Yeah, don't tell me that Percy doesn't have more durability. I could give you more examples of Percy's durability if you want to. Oh, how about the moment Percy knocked out Jason in infamous battle of Kansas? OH yeah, he made Jason tripped, got hit on the floor, and fainted. Wow Jason....: "He must die.” Jason turned his attention back to Percy, but Percy had recovered more than either of them realized. He swept out his leg and knocked Jason off his feet. Jason’s head hit the asphalt with a nauseating conk."

While... Percy fell 20 feet more or less, and didn't faint at all: "Enceladus had dropped [Percy]" pg. 404

Or how about when Kronos hit Percy really hard with a flick of his hand in The Battle of the Labyrinth: "[Kronos] looked at me with amusement. Then he flicked his hand, and I flew across the room. I slammed against the pillar. I struggled to my feet, blinking the stars out of my eyes, but Kronos had already grasped the handle of his scythe."pgs. 303-304

Once again we see Percy take a superhuman blow which knocks him hard against an unforgiving surface and only being stunned, yeah, beat that Jason.

Polybotes, it looks like my friends had already that topic quite well, so I don't have anything else to add.

You know, what's funny is the fact that you only added giants and titans...when Percy has defeated more deities than just that. He defeated roughly 3 gods and one goddess....I'm wonder why you didn't include that as well, oh wait, it's because Jason never defeated a god or goddess before, but Percy did...

I think you also forget that Percy defeated deities outside of his world...like oh, defeating the most powerful magician in the world, Setne. Honestly, if you want to continue the numbers game, Jason will never win. He has fought far to many gods/titans/goddess/giants for Jason to be in his league.

Honorable achievements Percy accomplished:

Most powerful Cyclops defeated by Percy: Polyphemus.

Most powerful giant in the PJ&Olympians series that Percy defeated: Anteaus.

Defeated most powerful magician: Setne.

Defeated Phobos in The Demigod Files.

Defeated Cacus, thought with some help from Annabeth.

So, I think it was a pretty bad idea to go with the 'Experience and Achievements' argument against Percy, since is pretty obvious Percy wins.

Sorry for the long post...and rant.