Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25014849-20140627232456/@comment-24067344-20150419143354

Southern Lights wrote: Seekquaze1 wrote: I'm basing my list on the end of the series and a combination of fighting skills, number of powers, level of powers, and versatility. This list only includes the Seven plus Nico.

1.  Percy - If it is water related he can do it, is the best swordsman in the group with Jason tying him at best and only Luke and Thalia surpassing him. His water powers are among the most versatile in the series.

2.  Nico -  Not a bad sword fighter and his power over the dead makes him the second most all-around useful since he can call upon dead soldiers or workers. Shadow travel is another bonus.

3.  Hazel - The mist manipulation gives her the boost up here when combined with shadow travel and her cavern/gem powers. Her mist powers are more than illusions and were almost whatever the plot needed including limited teleportation.

4.  Frank - Tough choice between him and Leo, but his combination of tactical abilities, physical strength both in an out of combat, fighting skill, and the variety uses shapeshifting can have make him potentially in Hazel's place.

5.  Leo - His pyrokinesis is powerful enough to defeat a snow goddess and he can build nearly anything making him extremely useful when preparing for battle or outside of it.

6.  Jason Grace - Sad, but the son of Zeus ends up here. He might be tied with Percy as the best swordfighter of the lot, but power wise he is a lot more limited. His only real powers are a few lighting bolts, flight, and can summon storms. His power to let others fly is very limited. So, while Jason is great in battle his powers outside of it are less than the rest of the group.

7.  Annabeth - A close tie with Piper's charmspeak. She lacks the powers or fighting skills of some of the others, but makes up for it by being the most knowledgable and overall  smartest.

8.  Piper - She has some fighting skills, but they do not or at least should not be much compared to the others since she lacks the years of training or natural skills of others. Her charmspeak is her only real power and while it can force others to do what she wants making it extremely useful it also can be blocked several ways, wears off, and is overall unreliable and more plot driven than anything else. Now I know this was from a really long time ago, but how on Earth or any other planet does Annabeth lack fighting skills? And I really think that Jason, being a son of Jupiter and having 12 years of Legion training, would rank at the top three, well maybe four, if you add in Nico like Seekquaze1. And "his only real powers are a few lightning bolts, flight, and can summon storms"?!!! You can call that limited? I agree that Leo's fire thing gives him an edge over the others, and that Piper's main weapon is charmspeak, but how come Hazel ranks so high? She's had less training than most, and her Pluto powers are the only thing that keep her alive. She's not particulary skilled at fighting or planning, like Annabeth, for example. I couldn't agree more with Percy being first place, though. Jason could probably beat Nico, having 5 more years of training, but they would tie in godly powers.

Training doesn’t mean everything. In fact, it really isn’t anything. For example Jason trained for 12 years. And Percy for 4 years. How can Percy be better or at least in the same level as Jason? He trained 8 years more than Percy. And had harsh training too. So Training doesn’t really count. It’s the experience in the real world. Not the training. And about Hazel, Just because she isn’t so good at fighting doesn’t mean she isn’t useful. She’s actually more useful than the majority of the seven. Mist powers help a lot lol.