Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20150426033044/@comment-26127871-20150428010211

Seekquaze1 wrote:

8th Hero of Olympus wrote:

Yes, I am referring to that particular instance, where an impenetrable orb of darkness generated by Hades was able to survive being blasted by the Master Bolt, a blast that incinerated the hotel, along with most of the city block... We have no evidence that it was the Master Bolt. Zeus has other lighting bolts patterned after it. Considering that during the battle with Typhon the Master Bolt caused Typhon to lose his footing and another lighting bolt toward the end of the battle did not we know Zeus has alternatives. And since using the Master Bolt in this case would be like using a nuclear missile to swat a fly and risk incinerating Hades I think it is safe to say it was lesser lighting Zeus used.

You have an annoying preconceived notion of Zeus being physically stronger than Hades (*facepalm*)... Once again, there is no observable and verifiable proof of this in any of the books, so please stop stating it as if it were an objective and self-evident fact! :P Aside from the claim that Zeus in the "Lost Hero" that Zeus is the most powerful god AND how in Percy Jackson's Greek Gods even tied up the group of gods (including Poseidon) were scared of him?

In "The Lightning Thief" Grover States that while wearing the Helm Hades becomes not only invisible, but also inaudible and intangible, so I highly doubt that his approach would generate even miniscule air disturbances! :))) And how is Hades supposed to affect Zeus then if he is intangible? He would have to remove the helmet first which makes him vulnerable.

8th Hero of Olympus wrote:

What is the logical conclusion? That Hades wasn't going all-out with the Helm's power at that moment! Even if he was, it would only be logical to assume that trying to terrify numerous foes at once would be far less effective than directing all of that power against a single foe (even one as powerful as Zeus)... In "Percy Jackson's Greek Gods", when Hades first puts the Helm on, both Poseidon and Zeus look at it and instantly pale and start excessively sweating, with Zeus even admitting to being frightened! By the time of this fight, Hades has learned to fully harness the Helm's full power and would direct it all at Zeus alone, so the effect would, doubtlessly, be even more impressive! :))) Or Grover overestimated its power and Percy was correct in that the monsters were more scared of Kronos than the helmet.  And putting on the helmet for the first time is different then a battle thousands of years later.  Zeus would be more familiar with his godly powers along with his arrogance growing to a point it would overwhelm any fear he may feel from the helmet.  I know mind or emotion powers like fear and charmspeak sound impressive, but given how we know both can be resisted and given that Zeus is king while Hades is not I think it is safe to say the helm is not an autonwin for Hades.

It is clear that Kronos is more terrified than the helmet. Thus it would not be a thing that denies it's power, but increases Kronos's. In addition, i'm changing my vote over to Hades.