Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20161222000051/@comment-25155763-20170127184753

Ea225225 wrote:

Oceanhalo12 wrote:

Ea225225 wrote:

Oceanhalo12 wrote: Omg Mark what do you not get?

Piper cant use charmspeak and fight its confirmed IN THE BOOKS!!!

This is like the fourth time I've pointed it out and every time you say what you think Piper would do, you conveniently skip over the fact. I never said she was a bad swordsman or anything of the sort, its just she cant take the offense and use charmspeak.

Lets look at it: Across the arena, Piper yells "stop!" Leo stops. Piper pulls out her sword. Immediately while she's doing that, Leo an snap out of it and put earplugs in. Then its just a girl with a sword against a boy who can build bombs in minutes. She tries to get near him, he sets himself on fire. Now Leo has time to pull whatever out of his belt and build something, assuming he takes that route and doesn't just set her on fire. Dude, Piper can just keep saying stop and stop every time Leo snaps out of it, Piper is smart, she's seen people that have snapped out of her charmspeak before so that seems like a reasonable thing to do. Also, even if Leo covers himself with fire, that won't stop Piper since she can just throw her knife at Leo. Leo covering himself with fire and dodging something that fast takes too much concentration. Also, how far do you think their apart to think that Leo can build something that fast...So sorry Leo😢 Umm an Arena's pretty big so distance isn't an issue...

No, that's not reasonable at all. For one thing, that would make fighting impossible because in between every stroke of her sword or jab of her dagger she would have to says stop. Not to mention she says the more she uses her charmspeak the less effective it is, same reason why she says she can't just keep saying drop your weapons to the Romans at Camp Jupiter and Fort Sumter. And your point that she's seen people snap out of her charmspeak only helps my argument. Aside from the fact that she stated she couldn't, its obvious she can't because as you said, "she's seen people that have snapped out of her charmspeak", so it she could continuously use it she would have in all those situations.

And Leo HAS DONE THINGS WHILE ON FIRE multiple times so that's not an issue. Even if he couldn't keep up the fire, he only has to stop the fire when she throws, which she can only do once, afterwards it would be behind Leo, who can now raise his fire shield once again.And Piper's never shown to have above-average aim so... So sorry Piper Dude, the things Piper can say with charmspeak are endless. Piper can easily say KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. Yes, you said charmspeak doesn't last that long, but it wouldn't take long for Leo to bring out a hammer from his toolbelt and slam his head with it. Also, when you said charmspeak doesn't last long. Don't you remember on BOO when Piper was singing to those snake dudes, she said she wanted to take a rest. How long do you think it took when Percy and Annabeth and Piper was talking about their family and all that, blah, blah, blah. It should take a few minutes right, at that time those snake dudes were still possessed by Piper charmspeak. You said this should take place in an arena right, let's take the Colleseum as an example. The length of the Colleseum is about 86 meters. Also in reference.com it says that an average female jogger jogs 6.5 miles per hour or 100 meters in 34 seconds. I am pretty sure Percy, Piper, Annabeth conversation was longer than that. Also, being a demigod, Piper should be running faster than that, and be able to reach to Leo before the charmspeak lasts. LOL I almost agreed with you until I remembered that the Snake Song was a different form of charmspeak, considering that any other time her charmspeak wasn't a trance, it was an order. That and the fact that her normal charmspeak never last that long, leads me to believe the Gemini were especially susceptible to a different form of charmspeak, which is basically stated in the book but its kind of subtexty.