Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20161222000051/@comment-29729973-20170131041929

Oceanhalo12 wrote: MarcakidofHermes wrote: She is not smart enough to do that.

You have got to be freaking kidding me. Thats what your saying. Piper will lose this fight because she isnt smart. Is that really what your saying.

You cannot back that up can you. People here will entertain the points that Leo will scream or Leo will use grenades so that he can win. I dont see what's stopping Piper from telling Leo to throw away his pack. Piper is very smart. Shes not a set character like a robot.

This debate will never end. First off, you said you countered all my points. I asked for you to write it out but you didnt. Second is I just proven that Piper can charmspeak while fighting while you didnt prove that Piper cant charmspeak while fighting. Third is

I said the fight just started. Leo cannot do a thing when hes under charmspeak. So your "cannot charmspeak while fighting" won't apply because Piper will just charmspeak him the second the fight starts. And it doesn't wear off immediately. What are you saying? The moment Piper stops talking, Leo is out of it?

Here's how debating works. You said Piper cannot charmspeak while fighting. You said its been proven. Go prove it. You also said Piper cannot tell Leo to throw away his pack. Prove why she can't. There is no limits to charmspeak. Drew embarrassed lots of people with charmspeak. Medea has set two best friends to kill each other woth charmspeak. Two best friends. Piper can just tell Leo to throw away his pack. I dont see why not

This debate will never end. You are favoring Leo. I'm pointing out the obvious as to how Piper will win. Your point was "Piper isnt smart". Why can't you see that your favoring Leo? Piper has the advantages of controlling people. She controls the fight. Will anyone else back me up here? Look at Oceanhalos points and see that theres something wrong with it. "She isnt smart". Thats the best you can come up with?

Piper CAN just tell Leo to throw away his pack. That is another possibility. Lol, Like a I said,the quote you provided showed Piper charmspeaking during a fight. I said she can't charmspeak while actively fighting, as in using her weapon against an opponent. Your quote showed her defending, as in protecting herself from an opponent's weapon. So really you have not disproved me.

Prove to me that Piper is smart enough to tell Leo that. SHE could've done that when Jason and Leo were under Medea's spell, when Percy and Jason were possessed, or any other fight. But nope. As in the quote you provided, she told Periboia to miss.She easily could've said throw away your weapon. But nope, she said miss. If she's so clever as to tell Leo to throw away his belt, why hasn't SHE EVER TOLD AN OPPONENT TO THROW AWAY THEIR WEAPON BEFORE? Please, give me your insight on why she would think of something she's never done before.

And I hope you know that asking people to 'back you up' won't help and is somewhere near harassment..?

Honestly to me, this fight is a draw. Even if she does tell Leo to throw away his belt, the very moment she raises her sword, her charmspeak wears off. Meaning Leo is now free to dodge, OR SHOOT SOME FIRE. While she's burning, he can go grab his tool belt and put in the earplugs.

Back to square one, aren't we? Seriously Oceanhalo? Dude, Piper is not stupid. Won't she know Leo has earplugs from toolbelt. Hahahaha, but seriously any average Joe could have figured that out. Why are you acting like after Piper says anything with charmspeak it will immediately wore off. Remember when in the books it said that Piper took a car from a car dealer, I AM PRETTY SURE THAT WHOLE PROCESS DIDN'T TAKE LIKE SECONDS!!!!! Also, when you said that why Piper didn't say that to Leo and Jason when they were fighting...I really don't know what you are talking about, it wasn't like they had any pack with them or something...didn't really understand that, and plus Piper was competing with a powerful charmspeaker. Also, when you said that Piper never told anybody to throw their weapons before, oh yeah, Hahaha, she did actually. When Percy and Jason were fighting she actually told one of them to drop their weapons. It really seems like your not biased, but instead shocked of the thought of you losing in a debate. But what really surprised me was that with all of those therioes you said, you now think this ends in a draw.