Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20161222000205/@comment-38511280-20190805072341

Housedunn wrote: So piper’s charmspeak is stupid. I just finished reading the HoO again so i’ll run done as much as I remember. Her charmspeak is less effective to people people how anticipate it, how are not attracted to her ( not necessarily female), emotional people (like enraged), or people who can charmspeak themselves. These things are not end all be all hard counters because you can see that annabeth is effected by it even tho piper wasn’t try to charm her. Also manipulating intentions ( like convincing a sleepy person to sleep) and singing can amp the charm. So personally I hated piper throughout the entirety of HoO and find her now manageable in ToA, and I personally love calypso, but either way I have to give the win to piper. Since she her singing give her mind control, completely overriding a character with killer intent, and can charm inanimate objects and GAIA, arguably the most powerful being in the verse, I really don’t see a ceiling cap for her powers. She was just sing control calypso, and that’s a W for her. If you wanna argue if calypso can resist it, it’s possible tho hiring her with a “LOOK THE OTHER WAY!!!” can give the opening she need to take the win. Also she’s better at fight then calypso. She’s the worst swordfiigher out of the seven but she can probably beat most other demigods out there Well, to try and make charmspeak less stupid, Annabeth was affected but was still able to resist. Her singing doesn't actually give mind control, it's like Orpheus. It can affect normal characters but probably works poorly on a Goddess. Festus doesn't really count as inanimate either. Piper can't charm a cardboard box (probably can't). While "LOOK THE OTHER WAY!!!" could work, Calypso could just use the wind so that she couldn't hear it. Calypso is also capable of singing to charm people (apparently). If all other things fail, there is the automatic win method of revealing her divine form, which probably shouldn't be allowed as there is no point to this discussion if it is.