Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160902235812/@comment-31707593-20170412234353

Pro time wrote:

Jason grace is op wrote:

Pro time wrote:

Jason grace is op wrote: Jason wins because he can just use winds to kill Percy and Jason's wind powers don't drain him a lot while Percy summoning impure water drains him. Also, Jason defeated Krios with bare hands and Percy was nearly defeated by Iapestus who was weaker than Krios. Percy also had the curse of Achilles when he fought Hyperion and Kronos. Seriously? Firstly, Jason's wind powers do drain him as shown in MoA. Percy's hurricane can render those winds ineffective but does not waste more energy than Jason's repeated wind gusts. Percy was drained when he summoned water because he blew up a volcano, destroyed thousands of telekhines and released Typhon He doesn't need to do that in a fight with another half-blood.

Jason did not defeat Krios with his "bare hands" but with his "own hands". We did not see the fight and in the Titan's own words he "got lucky". All sources unanimously agree that Iapetus is stronger than Krios. Wikipedia itself says that, next to Hyperion, Iapetus was the second strongest Titan who was a ruler of a region of the Earth and that Krios is regarded as the weakest (wasn't allowed to participate in the Olympian invasion). Percy didn't need the curse of Achilles to beat Hyperion (He used a hurricane) and it was a fair fight between him and Kronos as Kronos also had the curse of Achilles. Percy was also able to hold out in a fight against him when he didn't have the curse of Achilles.

It was also Percy's idea that trapped Atlas (2nd strongest Titan overall) under the weight of the sky which involved holding up the weight of the sky. Jason's wind powers don't drain him much anyway. And I said it was the summoning of pure water that drains Jason. And enceladus said that Jason slew Krios with bare hands. Tartarus said that Iapetus was weaker than Krios and Hyperion. And Percy had the curse WHEN he fought Hyperion so it helped him. Jason with the curse would have also defeated Kronos.

You just ignored everything I wrote. In the Mark of Athena repeatedly summoning gusts caused him to get tired. Enceladus never said that Jason slew Krios with his "bare hands". Jason said that he he slew Kronos with his "own hands". Tartarus's words cannot be trusted, all mythological scholars agree that Iapetus was stronger than Krios and Koios - look at Wikipedia. Percy had the curse when he defeated Hyperion, but it didn't help him. Jason would not have defeated Kronos because a) he is not as skilled or as quick-thinking as Percy (who defeated Ares) and b) is mistrusting of people. I have no reference of that. Please give me a reference of when Jason summoning gusts of wind drains him. Also, why can't Tartarus's words be trusted. And the curse did come into use when Percy defeated Hyperion and also Percy had help when he defeated Hyperion. For Kronos, Percy was the only one who needed the curse and Kronos didn't even use the curse like once.