Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-4531192-20131206222736/@comment-4324417-20131209070747

Zinedinzidan wrote: Darkcloud1111 wrote: If for some reason the two were together on a type of mini-quest and did get into a type of fight, pretty sure Frank would win on this on. First off Leo isn't built for combat; he is a machine guy and relies on his machines to do the fighting for him. Frank wouldn't let Leo pull out tools from his belt to work on making something. Even if Leo is working fast, I doubt he could faster then a flying arrow. Also look at their equipment. Leo has a toolbelt that can pull out working tools. The closest thing to a weapon he could pull out would be a hammer or maybe a box cutter. Frank has his bow, which he is very good with and could shoot Leo from a distance. He also has the Blessing of Mars that makes him immune to most damage for a time. His only weakness is the firewood and Leo helped solve that problem. Frank also is a great battle strategist and Leo...isn't.

Now looking at their powers, Leo is able to shoot fire and Frank can shapeshift. Any kind of low level flame from Leo would probably not bother Frank at all if he was using the Blessing of Mars. He could also probably avoid it all together if she transformed into a swift animal, like a bird or tiger. We have also seen Leo use more powerful, focused bursts of fire; but this is very draining on him and leaves him dazed after, leaving an opening for Frank. We have also seen Frank partially heal himself when switching between forms.

It pretty much all comes down to Frank crushing Leo. Frank is a fighter, Leo is not. Leo is a great battle strategist. Plus many people have been saying that Leo needs machines and wouldn't have enough time to make one. You are forgetting that he already has machines like the Archimedes sphere, the Argo 2, Festus' head and lots more.

Anyway the only case which this would happen in is in a game of capture the flag which is impossible because they are both from different camps or the eidolons.

You have also said that he would pull out useless things. What if he pulled out a pitchfork or a jackhammer? Leo hasn't been shown to be a great battle strategist, like Dark said he relies on machines. Festus' head doesn't count as a machine nor does the Argo 2 and this is a vs. fight so neither can be used. What I'm assuming Dark meant by useless is the fact that Leo hasn't been shown to pull anything useful to combat out of his belt (weapon wise) other than a hammer.