Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160902235812/@comment-31939138-20170507012502

Jason grace is op wrote: Pro time wrote:

Jason grace is op wrote:

Pro time wrote:

Jason grace is op wrote: Jason wins because he can just use winds to kill Percy and Jason's wind powers don't drain him a lot while Percy summoning impure water drains him. Also, Jason defeated Krios with bare hands and Percy was nearly defeated by Iapestus who was weaker than Krios. Percy also had the curse of Achilles when he fought Hyperion and Kronos. Seriously? Firstly, Jason's wind powers do drain him as shown in MoA. Percy's hurricane can render those winds ineffective but does not waste more energy than Jason's repeated wind gusts. Percy was drained when he summoned water because he blew up a volcano, destroyed thousands of telekhines and released Typhon He doesn't need to do that in a fight with another half-blood.

Jason did not defeat Krios with his "bare hands" but with his "own hands". We did not see the fight and in the Titan's own words he "got lucky". All sources unanimously agree that Iapetus is stronger than Krios. Wikipedia itself says that, next to Hyperion, Iapetus was the second strongest Titan who was a ruler of a region of the Earth and that Krios is regarded as the weakest (wasn't allowed to participate in the Olympian invasion). Percy didn't need the curse of Achilles to beat Hyperion (He used a hurricane) and it was a fair fight between him and Kronos as Kronos also had the curse of Achilles. Percy was also able to hold out in a fight against him when he didn't have the curse of Achilles.

It was also Percy's idea that trapped Atlas (2nd strongest Titan overall) under the weight of the sky which involved holding up the weight of the sky. Jason's wind powers don't drain him much anyway. And I said it was the summoning of pure water that drains Jason. And enceladus said that Jason slew Krios with bare hands. Tartarus said that Iapetus was weaker than Krios and Hyperion. And Percy had the curse WHEN he fought Hyperion so it helped him. Jason with the curse would have also defeated Kronos. You just ignored everything I wrote. In the Mark of Athena repeatedly summoning gusts caused him to get tired. Enceladus never said that Jason slew Krios with his "bare hands". Jason said that he he slew Kronos with his "own hands". Tartarus's words cannot be trusted, all mythological scholars agree that Iapetus was stronger than Krios and Koios - look at Wikipedia. Percy had the curse when he defeated Hyperion, but it didn't help him. Jason would not have defeated Kronos because a) he is not as skilled or as quick-thinking as Percy (who defeated Ares) and b) is mistrusting of people. I have no reference of that. Please give me a reference of when Jason summoning gusts of wind drains him. Also, why can't Tartarus's words be trusted. And the curse did come into use when Percy defeated Hyperion and also Percy had help when he defeated Hyperion. For Kronos, Percy was the only one who needed the curse and Kronos didn't even use the curse like once.

When Percy and Jason fended off the romans at the fort summer, Jason repeatly summoning wind blasts did drain him. Also, protengei like Tartarus can not be trusted because they have a way of bending the truth to fit their own benefits. Also, the only time Percy might have needed the curse in his fight with Hyperion was when: " Hyperion waved his hand and a wall of force slammed into me. I went sailing 300 feet backwards across the park." However, Percy has been able to take even stronger blows than that without the curse of Achilles and later fight deities similar in power to Hyperion. For instance, "Porphyrion backhanded Percy like a pesky fly. The son of Poseidon went flying and crashed into one of the columns with a sickening crunch." And later, Percy was able to hold his own against Thoon. "Percy was back on his feet, Riptide once again in his hands. He still looked dazed. His nose was bleeding. But he seemed to be holding his own against the old giant Thoon, who had somehow reattached his hand and found his meat cleaver." Percy was also flicked across the room by Kronos and later, was able to still fight Kronos himself." Kronos looked at me with amusement. Then he flicked his hand, and I flew across the room. I slammed against the pillar. I struggled to my feet, blinking the stars out of my eyes, but Kronos had already grasped the handle of his scythe." The other parts of the battle were all fire vs water so the curse could be rendered useless. Also, Kronos did need to use the curse of achilles when he fought Percy. An example: " Our blades clashed in a shower of sparks. He was stronger than me, but for the moment I felt the power of the ocean in my arms. I pushed him back and struck again—slashing Riptide across his breastplate so hard I cut a gash in the Celestial bronze." And: "I stumbled backward, switched my sword to my left hand, and lunged desperately. My blade should've run him through, but it deflected off his stomach like I was hitting solid marble. There was no way he should've survived that." Also, Percy was able to hold his own against Kronos with no curse of Achilles at all. And when he got the curse as well, he was completely equal with Kronos. "I met Kronos first strike with Riptide. The whole bridge shuddered but I stood my ground. Kronos's smile wavered."