Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20170321230658/@comment-30566621-20170330083700

Okay...I don't visit the wiki anywhere near as often as I should, so here's me trying to catch up on a week of Coolguypro777 attempting to monopolize the thread. ..

@VishwaUser: If you look at the two profiles, Pro and Storm are almost definitely the same person pretending to be two separate profiles (he or she at least could have used different writing styles and names, for goodness' sake). So just let him or her wear out the mods' patience.

@Ea225225: I've only ever contributed to this thread and the Nico vs. Jason thread as far as the versus threads go, so if there have been way too many comparisons to superhero matchups, my apologies. However, if you think about the ones I chose (Beast Boy for Frank, and Aquaman for Percy), you'll understand why I made that particular comparison. And besides, the point was their difference in power levels relative to each other, not in claiming that they share character qualities in any way.

@MeatFaceFTW: Where in Tartarus did bloodbending come from? Even I wasn't about to suggest he could do that. That's more likely to be Aesclepius or Hygeia

@Coolguypro777 and his/her alter ego, Storm7777: Please learn basic punctuation rules. Your apparent lack of awareness of the propriety of spaces after punctuation marks gives me a headache just from trying to decipher your gibberish.

As far as the five-way argument goes. . . Riordan has made it pretty clear that Frank doesn't do one-bug morphs. If he could, we would have seen that used (there would be literally zero reason for Riordan to avoid having Frank do a scounting mission as a single bug). He does swarms. In which case the gnat idea is out of the window (and stays out of Percy's ear). So please, let's lay that erroneous perception to rest and continue on with a better point.

When Frank is fighting in swarm of bees mode, it's highly likely that damage to one bee will be damage to Frank. He is shapeshifting after all, not just remotely throwing his consciousness into some animal shape crafted out of the Mist. We've never seen Frank use a sting swarm attack, and if he's attacking as a honeybee swarm most likely he would hurt himself every time he tries to sting someone. (If he attacked as a swarm of yellow jackets, wasp, hornets, or possibly bumblebees, though, he may not take damage from stinging.) And most swarms do move relatively slowly as a body. It might take Percy a try or two, but he could probably trap beeswarm!Frank in a water grasp. Or, if Frank tries swarming Percy, Percy can envelop himself in water and simply drown Frank out. Riordan's primary use of Frank's bee swarm shape is for mobility.

While it is true that Frank does not have ADHD, he has been blessed with tactical skills by Mars. These are to make up for his lack of hypersensitive senses, so that he can plan his way through battle as a leader. However, during the attack in the aquarium he did in fact panic and go fish during a water attack (Phorcys' trap springing and dousing them with water). There is zero proof that Percy could not forseeably gain at least a short advantage by feinting an attack to reveal a different attack that puts Frank off balance either physically or mentally. Percy's skill is in making intuitive physical decisions, while Frank's skill is in making intuitive mental decisions. Percy can catch Frank off guard with an in-the-moment surprise attack, but Frank can catch Percy off guard with a long-term plan. (In a sense, after receiving Mars' support, Frank essentially becomes the Annabeth of the Camp Jupiter group, in the sense that he gains tactical insight and applies it successfully several times over the course of the remaining story.)

Also, keep in mind that being in or near water energizes Percy significantly--to the point that he has high recovery rate from stuns and slows when in contact with water (especially that controlled or blessed by Poseidon). If Frank does not recognize this fact and separate Percy from an easy water source early on, he will be in for a long fight, and even the ideas of large-bodied charging, etc., will have a significantly reduced effect on Percy. If, however, Frank can remove Percy from the water (or the water from around Percy), then he can gain a good advantage.