Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20180222213908/@comment-34692852-20180228222617

Zeusnineteen wrote: Haroldzz19 wrote: However, Percy can create a hurricane, rendering the arrows useless. Also, there is no proof that Thalia is faster, more agile or stronger than Percy. While Thalia is an extremely powerful demigod and is a Hunter of Artemis, which makes her stronger and faster than an average demigod, there is still no proof of her being stronger or faster than a demigod like Percy Jackson. She has no extremely impressive feats which prove that she is stronger or faster than Percy while Percy has many impressive feats which involve strength and agility. For example, Percy was able to block a bullet travelling at over 1700 mph with his sword. I am not saying Thalia couldn't do the same thing, she might have done it but it is not confirmed. Percy was also able to slice waves of arrows out of the air in The Last Olympian while Thalia has no such feat. I am not saying she couldn't have done it but it is not confirmed that she could do it.

As well as that, Percy was able to match Iapetus' attacks while being critically injured and tired. Thalia and Nico were actually by his side and even though they both were at full strength, they were soon defeated while a critically injured, poisoned and tired Percy was able to match Iapetus' attacks and hold his own.

"Even weakened and just out of the pit, this guy was fast. He moved like a tornado, slashing so quickly I barely had time to dodge the strike before his spear impaled the rock where I'd been standing."

You could say Iapetus was weakened but then again, even when he was weakened, Thalia was quickly defeated in that fight while Percy in a much weaker state managed to hold his own.

Also, about strength, Percy was able to match Kronos in terms of that in The Last Olympian:

"I met Kronos' first strike with Riptide. The impact shook the entire bridge, but I held my ground. Kronos' smile wavered."

And not to mention Percy had to defeat around two hundred monsters before this which definitely tired him up especially since the Curse of Achilles makes the bearer tire much more quickly as mentioned by Chiron in the quote below:

"You may be invulnerable in combat," Chiron said. "But that will only make your body tire faster. I remember Achilles. Whenever that lad was not fighting, he was sleeping. He must've taken twenty naps a day."

Sure Percy did have the Curse of Achilles but Kronos also had the curse, all of Luke's skill and most of Kronos' divine powers and strength. I don't think Thalia could've done something similar as her strength feats are not nearly as impressive as this one.

Not to mention this: “Our blades clashed in a shower of sparks. He was stronger than me, but for the moment I felt the power of the ocean in my arms. I pushed him back and struck again—slashing Riptide across his breastplate so hard I cut a gash in the Celestial bronze.”

Percy was able to actually push Kronos, who had far superior strength and body weight back and find an opening in his defense.

While Thalia also has a few decent feats involving strength or agility, they are not nearly as impressive as Percy's so you cannot jump to conclusions right away my friend.

And not offence, if you think that Thalia can actually dodge Percy water based attacks, his hurricanes and his earthquakes, you have water in your brain my friend. While maybe some of Percy's attacks may be dodged, there is no way at all to dodge all of his attacks such as his water hands, hurricanes and earthquakes, especially if Percy summons his attacks rapidly which he can and will do. Thalia's best shot will be her aerokinesis which can blast away Percy's water hands. However, she has completely no defense against Percy's earthquakes mainly because of her fear of heights which will make her reluctant to fly. An earthquake may as well completely take Thalia off guard allowing Percy to kill her.

On the other hand, Percy might not have much defense against Thalia's bolts but judging by the time she takes to summon a bolt, Percy could constantly pressure her with attacks that will force her to defend and use up all her energy so that if she tries to summon a bolt, the effort could kill her or make her black out. And not to mention Percy was able to survive a full scale bolt from Jason in MOA and recover quite quickly so even if one of Thalia's bolts do hit her, it wouldn't do a lot to Percy but it would make Thalia really tired. Also, Percy is probably smart enough not to allow Thalia to summon a bolt in the first place.

Percy could completely negate Thalia's aerokinesis with his hurricane as well while he pressures Thalia with water based attacks to divert her attention while Percy stops using his hurricane to save energy. And because Thalia cannot possibly take the time to summon a bolt with all those water attacks pressuring her (unless she wants to be killed) she will not be able to summon a bolt. Percy can then make geysers appear underneath Thalia's feet (which could possibly knock Thalia unconscious because his geysers have been known to be able to launch adult Cyclopes into the air and disintergrate him) or cause an earthquake to distract Thalia while he launches water based attacks to put her out of commission. Then after, that the fight would be easy. If Thalia tries to summon a lightning bolt, at the beginning of the battle, that will be a foolish move as a bolt takes time and concentration to summon, which could allow Percy to do some serious damage to Thalia at the beginning of the battle by using a water based attack or making a geyser erupt beneath her while she is trying to summon a bolt.

In the end, it is probably the fact that Percy's attacks are much less energy consuming as Thalia's which will probably make him win the battle. It can go either way though depending on the two's battle strategies. You talk as if Percy could summon hurricanes and earthquakes at the speed of light, as if he doesn't need to concetrate to do so. His powers don't work like that. He needs time and focus to do any of these things. Do you really think that Thalia gonna give Percy free time to summon a tsunami or hurricane or anything? Also, if they are fightning on the forest, that's even worse for Percy, because Thalia is a huntress, and the forest is kind of her territory.

Also, where did you get the information that a possessed Jason summoned a full power lightning bolt against Percy? I said that Percy could summon water based attacks extremely quickly and you cannot deny that. And look at when Percy summoned a hurricane in SoN again. He was able to do that extremely quickly and just as the Roman Legion began attacking. He did require a lot more concentration and time in The Last Olympian but his powers have increased a lot by then. Also, Percy summoned an earthquake in SoN by just sticking Riptide into the ground and it didn't require a lot of time and concentration or the Roman Legion would've slaughtered him. Besides, I said that Percy could make a geyser erupt from under Thalia's feet which would knock her out of commission as a geyser from Percy was able to easily launch a Cyclopes into the air. Then, he would have a lot of time to do whatever he wants to Thalia.

Also, during MOA, Piper stated that a possessed Percy had all of the original Percy's skill and power. If that was the case, Jason would have also been able to summon a full scale lightning bolt against Percy. You could argue he didn't want to but since he was possessed by eilodons and wanted to kill Percy, there is not reason he wouldn't have wanted to kill Percy.

And do not assume this is going to be in a forest because the fighting place needs to be one where both fighters have a certain advantage for example a beach in this scenario where Percy can use water to it's maximum effect and Thalia can use aerokinesis to it's maximum effect.

Besides. just comparing their powers is extremely unreliable especially if the fighter's powers are extremely powerful like in this case. Therefore, I believe we should go off the feats and if we do that, Percy would win by far.