Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24252521-20171123044845/@comment-27320292-20180407191758

Philosophernoct wrote: Not in a perfect world, but in a 'real world'. In a world of reality.

Is Piper a whining brat? Yes. Is her thoughts are shallow and stupid? Sadly, but yes.

Is she doing something anything good or usefull rather than just stealing things? No. And, If you're stealing things, that means you have problems, really and Piper has problems. And again, reminder, Tristan's acts are wrong too but, Piper should've done something good, like Rachel, again.

And, yeah, I agree, this how is parentage works. While I do think that love is and should be regardless. I still think that earning respect and getting attention are not regardless, in the reality. Those are different things. I never said about Tristan's love, I only said and talked about 'attention' and 'respect'. And in, even parentage, your parents still doesn't respect you, If you're not trying to earn it or If you're not doing something good. Even If they still love you and they keeps love you always, that doesn't mean that they respects you. I'm repeating again, Love is regarless, but attention, more likely, positive attention and respect are not. And, In that case, you, still, must try to earn those things, If you want positive attention and respect from people, even If those people are your family members or your dad. If you're not trying to earn it, you can not achieve it. Comparison;

1-We have Rachel, who makes good things, who makes real usefull things that considerbly good and creative, such as art. We have this girl, who is smart enough to realize whining over something can't and doesn't fix or change anything. We have Rachel, that thinking logically and does not go and steal cars and who is not whining over everything and who can get over her daddy issue problems.

2- And, we have Piper.

This is just like simple. You should not have to earn attention from your parents. Granted, you should earn their pride and respect, but you should never have to earn their attention. The real world doesn't always bend to what "Should" happen.

Interesting you bring up Rachel because Rachel and Piper have very similar backgrounds, but there's one core thing they do not share: Piper had her father's attention at one point. Rachel NEVER had that. I think saying her dad even loves her is a stretch. Why would she try to get something back that she never had? She barely knows her family, we've seen interactions that suggest that they're seriously estranged.

Piper, on the other hand, had her dad's attention. And then lost it to his career to be replaced by Jane who is a straight-up b****. And it doesn't seem like she had much outside emotional support to guide her. Rachel at least has a social circle with her hobby, for Piper it would be harder because being the daughter of a movie star is different than being the daughter of a rich land developer. Children of movie stars tend to get more people trying to suck up to them. I can acknowledge that Piper's actions are not mature decisions, but there ARE kids who do steal to get their parent's attention because nothing else works. We have no confirmation of what Piper tried before stealing, but we know that she knows she gets results from doing this and she does suffer consequences that tell her that maybe this wasn't the best idea.