Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160707163148/@comment-28908803-20160710182149

Erick.baez.773 wrote:

Commander Tool Belt wrote: Point of correction- Jason's gladius is gold.

I know in Mark of Athena Hazel controlled his weapon, but can she do it in combat? I think she might have done that if she could.

As for him having to direct his lightening with his weapon, he actually blasted Enceladus in Lost Hero without it. So what if Zeus helped him? Zeus sent the lightening bolt does not mean Jason all of a sudden did not need a weapon. Most likely, I think Jason only uses his weapon to direct the blast when he has a weapon, because he wants to. The problem is, Zeus is the one who summoned it, not Jason. Zeus didn't just merely helped him at all. HE was the one who summoned that Lightning bolt. Jason didn't not have the energy at all to summon another lightning bolt. How do I know? This has been fairly consistent throughout the series, not including The Blood of Olympus. It has been shown that Jason was only limited of summoning one lightning bolt, heck, in The Lost Hero, he almost fainted summoning just one lightning bolt! Now, you might be right of Jason using a weapon to not summon his Lightning bolt, but to direct it instead, but let's see if you're right. I'll start with some examples from The Lost Hero.

"Jason raised his javelin, and thunder broke open the sky. Every hair on Piper's arms stood straight up. Lightning arced down through the golden spear point and hit the campfire with the force of an artillery shell." Piper, Pg. 127

'''"It's an excellent conductor of electricity." Jason raised his Javelin, and the ceiling exploded.. A lightning bolt ripped through the roof like it was an eggshell, connected the tip of Jason's spear and sent out arcs of energy that blasted the sofas to shreds."''' Pg. 360

"Lightning streaked out of the sky and blasted the [Jason's] sword, throwing Jason free. He rolled when he hit the ground. When he looked up, the giant was staggering." Pg. 511

Now, if you think that Jason can summon lightning without a weapon, how can he direct it? That's the point of summoning one right? To hit an opponent. But how if he can't direct the bolt? It's literally useless then. In The Titan's Curse, Percy's fight with Thalia, Thalia displayed 2 ways of summoning lightning/electricity: One is using her weapon to summoning lighting bolts that hit Percy, and the other one was static electricity from her body. These are facts. If Thalia can summon lightning bolts, without her weapon, that can hit people, why didn't she do it? And no, don't say she could've cause she can't. If she summoned lighting through her weapon to hit Percy, why didn't she do without her weapon? Closer to the end of The Titan's Curse, Luke and Thalia fight. Percy mentions that Lightning surrounds them, but doesn't hit Luke at all. Here's the quote:

"Thalia and Luke went spear on sword, lightning still flashing around them. Thalia pressed Luke back with the aura of her shield. Even he was not immune to it. He retreated, wincing and growling in frustration."

Perhaps you are right, that Jason needs a weapon to direct lighting, but it seems that he can't summon lighting bolts at all if he doesn't have a weapon, unlike Thalia, who perhaps can, but her lightning blots can't hit an opponent without her directing it with a weapon, but still, I'm not sure if she can summon lightning bolts without a weapon though, because of this: "When his sword, Backbiter, met Thalia's shield, a ball of lightning erupted between them, frying the air with yellow tendrils of power."

It seems like it really isn't Thalia who's summoning electricity/lightning after all. It's seems that when you connect with her shield, electricity erupts or explodes, though I could be wrong, of Thalia not summoning it instead. I disagree with you, for now, till you give me some evidence of Jason summoning Lightning bolts without weapons or directing it with weapons, not including the example I gave you against Enceladus, WHEN IT WASN"T HIM, but let's agree to disagree till you give me some evidence. And please, if you are going to counter my arguments, do it with some valid points, and no just "He can summon lighting bolts without a weapon if he wants too." To tell you one thing, Jason power of summoning lighting bolts is about half of his powers. If you realize, there is no storm without a weapon as well, as shown several times in the series as well, making if easier for Hazel to win. I wait for you answer. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone keeps forgetting that Hazel never needed concentration. And while everyone says she does, Jason needs like 10 seconds to keep the thunderclouds together, and like another 10 to summon the actual lightening.and while you guys say "if Hazel could control weapons in battle wouldnt she have done that already"  I say if Jason could control lightening without his weapon wouldnt he have done that already.(without zues's help) And Hazel never had help from her father in this century, the least she got was a visit from her father after she saved Jason. Also we have seen Hazel have some weaponry power that gives a HUGE advantage in combat. Remember when she summoned all the weapons from under the ground in Alaska in the son of neptune, remember the Mark of Athena where she had to control Jasons sword. (Ok I admit,  she was standing next to him, but still an advantage)  You guys are so underestimating how powerful Hazel really is!

Also, while Jason is taking forever  to summon ONE bolt of lightening, Hazel has been proved to be able to summon metals, so even if she may not be able to control it to fight without her hands, she can summon it towards her, so basically all Jason has there is to fly, and *AHEM* the mist. She can make it seem like they are already flying, while she is drowning him in jewels and/or stabbing him. (And please do not say, that Hazel is not that powerful with the mist, Jason even said after she saved him that everyone on that boat was a little hesitant to look at Hazel, he said and i quote "that Hazel pulled off some serious magic." House of Hades, and to be honest if we are being realistic Jason is not exactly reisistent to magic Example 1. Media (in the lost hero) Example 2. Eidolons (the mark of Athena) Example 3 Piper's charmspeak ( the lost hero, MArk of Athena.) So Hazel has that advantage again. So please if you are doing this because you like Jason more than Hazel, please at least give us an accurate reason why like Erick.baez.773 said. And if you are about to say something about Jason and lightening look at Erick.baez.773 arguement.

I really like Jason as much as Hazel, I do, and I am not trying to make a civil war here so please Jason voters dont be offended, but like I said Hazel has alot of advantages, ad be honest Jason's powers are basically are his weaknesses, so please before you say something again read all the Hazel arguements before you reply

Hazel (: but Jason voters I hope I stared you to a tie) (:(: