Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20151024232802/@comment-24067344-20160710220342

8th Hero of Olympus wrote: ^^^ OK, I'd just like to point out that in the first example (with Porphyrion's spear), that wasn't so much strength, as much as it was Percy merely using the Giant't own considerable momentum against him, applying the right amount of force to the right place. The second example (jumping across the river in Tartarus) shouldn't entirely count, since Annabeth herself implies that Percy did so in a combination of hysterical strength and extra strength enhancement from the river's water. Blocking the blow of Kronos and overpowering the Minotaur shouldn't count either, as in both instances his strength and durability were enhanced to immense superhuman levels by the Curse of Achilles, and Percy wouldn't have been unable to do so otherwise. You're right about the first part, which is about Porphyrion's spear. But you are totally wrong about he second one. Annabeth doesn't know how Percy did it 8th, she was just speculating. How could Percy jump 20 feet with the help of water, if that water strictly wasn't the type of water Percy would control or use to give him strength??? It has been shown in Tartarus that water in Tarturus does not give Percy strength, unlike in the upper world. Here's a quote: "Percy looked near dead with exhaustion. Usually water reinvigorated him, but not this water. Controlling it must have taken every bit of his strength."

Based on this quote, and considering the fact that Percy doesn't find another river that heals him, I thin it's safe to say that Percy can't be enhanced by the water here in Tartarus.

Why do you think he and Annabeth passed the river by jumping? Percy wouldn't had to jump 20 feet. Also, I think you are forgetting Percy was in Tartarus, and he was in a weakened state, which makes this even more impressive. Please, don't try to underrate Percy's feats. You have to first look at the atmosphere, the state Percy is in, and the situation. Percy was in Tartarus, a place no who has ever survived besides Nico and is a place that kills demigods. Demigods actually cannot survive Tartuarus. Tartarus was killing them. Here's the quote: "Tartarus kills demigods,’ Bob said.‘It heals monsters, but you do not belong. Tartarus will not heal Percy. The pit hates your kind."

Percy's state wasn't very good, meaning he had to go beyond his limits to do these type of stuff, after all, didn't you agree in another thread that Percy would never pass out in difficult situations for the sake of Annabeth? His mindset was to save and protect Annabeth. People can do incredible things for the sake of their loved ones.

I'm wondering if you read my post. I said that Percy indeed had the Curse of Achilles. But are you forgetting something? Kronos as well had the Curse of Achilles, and above that, much more strength and power since he is a Titan. Percy blocking the blow of Kronos is a feat of strength, whether you agree or not. But I do agree with the Minotaur part, but yet I did mention he had the Curse of Achilles.

Also, did you forget the last quote I posted? About Percy and Jason? It seems you have.