Talk:The Son of Neptune

Again about Reference no. 2
Reference no 2 says: Who are the other four mentioned in the prophesy?''' The answer may lie in another camp miles away, where a new camper has shown up and appears to be the son of Neptune, god of the sea. . .''' CLEARLY, it's referring to a son of the Sea God, but are we 100% sure it's Percy (It did not say, a new Camper named Percy Jackson...) i think we should wait for more info... Do people still read Talk Pages??? 112.207.58.11 03:59, March 6, 2011 (UTC) (Steamygoreng... not Banned)

I do.  Sly Hades  99  17:55, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

So I was surfin the web, and I checked out the normal wikipedia page for "The Son of Neptune" and they said "On Rick Riordan's website, he confirms that the titular son of Neptune is indeed Percy, not a Roman camper." But the link they use for this shows me nothing. Does anyone know if this is someone's speculation when they set up that page, or did Riordan in fact confirm Percy as the Son of Neptune? &quot;Beware the Jabberwokk my son; The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch.&quot; (talk &bull; contribs) 20:07, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It is pretty obvious that Percy is the main character in the new book. He was swapped with Jason and when Jason was put in the Greek camp, Percy was put in the Roman Camp by Hera. So in Son of Neptune its about Percy in the Roman Camp where he is Son of Neptune the roman version of Posieden

The only thing that is obvious is that Percy will be IN the book, not that it will be with his point of view, we might be introduced to another son of Posiedon (I.e. Neptune) who ends up trying to help keep Percy alive because of orders from his father...76.95.42.121 14:13, May 8, 2011 (UTC)



It is definitly about Percy, I have read the first two chapters, the first one released on Rick's site, the second he read to us in person. It is Percy Jackson. JKRfan002

It could be pretinent to note that the Roman version of the gods made no such pact with percy concerning the children of Roma. If this is indeed the case, and that the Roman forms of the gods have no obligation to claim their demigod children, then there could very well be a 'Hermes' cabin on the west coast. Remember where all the minor and unclaimed children went in Half-Blood in Manhattan? In the Roman camp, I'm sure there's the same setup going on and that there may be a child of Neptune unclaimed in the house of Remus e Romulus.

Who are the other voices?
We know 2 three things that are important from the preview (at least I think they are important). The first is that, indeed, Percy has returned as a main character of our books, and since we can assume that the narrators of the books are one of the seven demigods in the prophecy, we have #4 lined up and waiting for us. The second is that this writing format is similar to the first book, indicating that we can probably bet on there be two more demigods who will narrate for us, the question is who are they (friends that Jason mentioned, or will it be two new characters like Piper and Leo were?). Finally the third point is that, as hinted in the preview of "The Son of Neptune" the Roman Camp is going to be attacked soon, and as usually Percy's quest will have something to do with preventing it. So who do you think is going to narrate alongside Percy? I think it we can remove the possibilty of another child of Zeus, Hephaestus, Aphrodite, or Poseidon because there is really no need to repeat powers.&quot;Beware the Jabberwokk my son; The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch.&quot; (talk &bull; contribs) 14:59, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunatley, I can´t read the preview. I can´t open it. But I think that the demigods from the roman Camp that are mentioned in the prophecy will be friends of Jason, or at least one friend of him. Percy and Jason both have to have someone from their past, who can help them to bring their memorys back (Annabeth and Reyna, I think)Menara (talk &bull; contribs) 16:43, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

To the post above, saying Annabeth and Reyna, who's to say that Jason wasn't a homosexual during his time at the roman camp? There was absolutely no context saying that he was all one way or all the other, just that he manipulated the mist to make a girl think that she liked him for a few months... So yeah, don't be a homophobe/sexist!

on this website http://camphalfblood.wikia.com/wiki/The_Son_of_Neptune (liturally this web site) it tells you that the 3 main charactors are Percy, Frank and Hazel it also tells you the plot, synopsis and the development if you want to know.

I think its Frank and Hazel. I hope Annabeth is also narrating. Athena Roxz (talk &bull; contribs) 11:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The new sneak peek
I just read and posted a blog about it. It's nice. Ricorum (talk &bull; contribs) 20:54, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Gee, you guys on Wiki are a tough bunch. You are much more skeptical than the guys on the fansites. But you can say you want I have it on my Blackberry. I will (God willing) be able to put it up.

vTerry of Mortalnet asked Rick, “In the same way that Thalia is a daughter of Zeus and Jason a son of Jupiter, Percy could NOT be the son of Neptune. Could he?”Rick answered saying, “Well if Percy is going to show up at the Roman camp will all his abilities to control water and such, it’s safer for the Roman campers to think he is a son of Neptune and not Poseidon. Also there are OTHER reasons for naming the book Son of Neptune. I’ll just let you ponder that.”

Do you want to also say we weren't there, and Terry didn't ask this question? I will prove it to you.

Percy doubted June was defenseless. At worst this was a trap. At best this was some kind of test. Percy hated tests! Since he lost his memory, his whole life was one big fill in the blank. He was blank from blank, he felt like blank, and if the monsters caught up with him, he'd be blank. Then he thought about Annabeth: the only part of his old life he was sure about. He had to find her.

From Son of Neptune - read to audience 5/25/11 At Rick's appearancePoseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 00:22, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe we should all agree not to edit this page until October 5th, a day after the book comes out, what you say?KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 00:32, June 5, 2011 (UTC) I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGAbfqtjUw you wanted proof here it is enjoy. the video is horrible the audio is very good.Poseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 05:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Cover Art
I love the American cover art for the Son of Neptune I can't wait to see what the English cover looks like after seeing the American version.Charmedh2ogirl (talk &bull; contribs) 12:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Have you noticed that the John Rocco cover (American) has Percy with a cut on his cheek. Proof that Percy will lose his Mark of Achilles. Oh wait, you guys don't believe June (Juno) gave Percy that warning.

v "If I go to camp, will I get my memory back?" "Eventually," June said. "But be warned, you'll sacrifice much, you'll lose the mark of Achilles, and you'll feel pain, misery, and loss beyond anything you've ever known. But you might have a chance to save your old friends and reclaim your old life."Poseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 00:32, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Also, if you zoom in, behind Percy there is a temple split in half crumbling and falling off the top the the glacier.

what with the plot point?
In the wikia page for the SoN it has a clear referance to a chapter 2 i.e carrying "June" (Juno) to camp0. however i believe this may be a fanfic written after the chapters release. I mean June ? A bit obvious for riordian! if not anyone have a link.BURN IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:34, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Here's the link you've been asking for: http://www.mortalnet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&%20t=228 I would agree that it does seem obvious for Riordan but it's his creative license. The excerpt is a reading of chapter 2 from the lecture Rick Riordan did in NYC on May 25, 2011. That was the day he released the sneak preview of Son of Neptune. People who went have been talking about June and it bothered me that it wasn't in the first chapter. Dcmjlive (talk &bull; contribs) 03:27, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Okay ive read it and it IS way too obvious. Hera is definatly playing favourites. Jason gets a pretty girl and the funniest charecter in the book with fire powers while percy is all alone chased by gorgans and will have to lose the curse? that sucks. not to mention the romans will probably imprison/kill him.BURN IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:34, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

a) please sign your posts, b) Percy already has a girl, its implied that Jason did not have a girl before Hera snagged his memories, c) Hera already did not like Percy, so making him run a bit while being hounded by Gorgons is, as far as she is concerned, a little bit of harmless fun on his part, d) dunno what all the prophecies says, but Percy has yet to meet his two questing companions, and e) currently he has the blessing of Lupa to find the camp, so the Romans will not try and kill him just yet. &quot;Beware the Jabberwokk my son; The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch.&quot; (talk &bull; contribs) 21:46, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

You forgot to say f) the funniest character in the book with fire powers is LEO. And g) If he still had the Achilles curse, he would be too obvious and the Romans would know he's Greek right away. Dcmjlive (talk &bull; contribs) 04:16, June 2, 2011 (UTC) 18:34, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Iwill explain to you WHY PERCY MAY NOT BE THE SON OF NEPTUNE:
if you carefully read 4th reference, i'll quote it for you:

True, we have Tyson, for example, who is also a son of Poseidon, but not a demigod....although each of the books is about a demigod so who knows eh? &quot;Beware the Jabberwokk my son; The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch.&quot; (talk &bull; contribs) 15:37, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Terry of Mortalnet asked Rick, “In the same way that Thalia is a daughter of Zeus and Jason a son of Jupiter, Percy could NOT be the son of Neptune. Could he?”Rick answered saying, “Well if Percy is going to show up at the Roman camp will all his abilities to control water and such, it’s safer for the Roman campers to think he is a son of Neptune and not Poseidon. Also there are OTHER reasons for naming the book Son of Neptune. I’ll just let you ponder that.” SΓΣamy Goreng 11:02, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

I personaly think Triton Poseidons/Neptunes Immortal son, has allied himself with the giants to destroy Percy.

It makes sense as Poseidon openly claimed Percy was his favourite son and after Percy saved Olympus he was probably talking bout him nonstop. BURN IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:32, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Terry and I discussed what question we could ask for the Q & A time. We had seen the mikes set up in the audience. Without his memory of course the Romans will see him as a son of Neptune. However, the way Rick answered this saying to him "OTHER REASONS FOR NAMING THE BOOK SON OF NEPTUNE. I'LL JUST LET YOU PONDER THAT." It was said with irony, poignant, and yet tongue in cheek. My take from it is Percy will have another brother.Poseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 00:47, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

It's actually very unlikely Percy isn't the son of neptune because he needs to pose as a roman demigod to gain trust (as Hera quoted) and I think that Poseidon isn't the type to get another woman and have kid about Percy's age since Poseidon really loved Sally a lot. Rick Riordan also had said that Tyson would show up in the 2nd book so that could be talking about him as well. :) So we'll see on October 4th at the earliest.

Uncomfirmed Rumor - now confirmed
I told you so :DPoseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 02:04, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

This passage keeps comming up again and again

Upon his escape, he thinks about going to the ocean as he would be at his strongest there. However, upon seeing the Roman guards at the door, he felt that it was not his territory. He is caught off-guard by an old lady named June who tells him that he is right and the door is the entrance to the Roman Camp Half-Blood. June gives him a choice. He could leave her defenseless to the Gorgons and escape into the ocean where he could live to an old age or instead, he could carry her "across the highway, through the tunnel, across the river" and to the camp. If he chose the latter, Percy would slowly regain his memories, lose the mark of Achilles, and have the chance to save the Gods, the world and his friends. He chooses this alternative and carries June to camp.

Frankly, because their quote and quote 'source' is not Rick's official site, and the date they give is off when compared to its adding on the site and the confirmed preview. So, until its on an official sight, lets leave it out.

KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 03:07, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Rick read it as an expert PerseusJackson -Jordan Terraemotus Tempestas  12:19, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

It's not on an offical sight, so its unconfirmed for now. If it appears on the official sight, add it on KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 13:16, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

First of all, it is spelt as SITE not SIGHT. Second, sources are already verified, the paragraph is also in reference to the lecture Rick Riordan did on May 25 in New York City, read by an expert narrator, transcribed by one of the fans on mortalnet. I've already spoken with the transcriber and yes, it's official.Dcmjlive (talk &bull; contribs) 15:54, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

One cannot take just one blog into account. It could easily be a fanfiction work. The Website needs to say it expressively before we put it on the wiki. KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 16:01, June 4, 2011 (UTC)....Disney or Camp Half Blood are examples of sites that are reliable for confirmed rumors. If one believed every rumor people put up, it would be like the chaos of false pokemon that appear during the period of time between a new Generation being confirmed and when the entire new Pokemon list is posted, for example.

The live stream of the event was found here: http://www.rickandjameslive.com/ And in Rick Riordan's blog, you can confirm that there was an event of such sort. The one who posted on the fansite MortalNet is the administrator of the site and posting a false transcribed work and passing it as official would be fallacious. No administrator would put his/her neck out that way if it was not verified. If you'd like to voice your concerns to the poster, email her at suzanne.mortalnet@gmail.com. She has the video as proof. And by definition, it is not a rumor. It is a second-hand source.Dcmjlive (talk &bull; contribs) 16:15, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

First source only KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 16:18, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

The first hand source is the event itself. A video or a transcription of said event would suffice. Dcmjlive (talk &bull; contribs) 16:25, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Do you have such a video? KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 16:26, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

As I said, if you're looking for the video, ask the administrator of mortalnet. Her e-mail is up there. Dcmjlive (talk &bull; contribs) 16:29, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Is it on the official sites? If not, if no link to a confirming page exists there, IT DOES NOT BELONG KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 19:06, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Alright guys chill, I sent the admin of mortalnet suggesting if she had proof she should post it on her site. Oh and also, just to point out, there needs to be a comma added under the synopsis section. Just pointing out.well i realy think that rick is go to have a big sur prize for us when we read the book right i woudent fuss over this now wait till the book comes out to be confused.

EDIT: Okay, well she said she does have a video on her blackberry and somebody already asked, she told them she will try to upload it to youtube next week. She doesn't have time right now.

NavySealsGuy (talk &bull; contribs) 20:18, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Probably low quality. Nothing against you Navy, but Wiki's fall when risky information fills their pages. I will not see that happen on this one, until it gets on the official sites, I'd be hessitant to post it. Like the identities of the other cabins not mentioned in the series, such as Tyche or Nike, and the mentioned ones numbers, they were only added because the sight confirmed their numbers vand names That, and I frankly think Hera's dumb removing the Achilles....WHAT GOOD WOULD THAT DO ANYWAY....that only weakens Percy KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 20:35, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hi everyone,

My name is Suzanne or Poseidonsdaughter of MortalNet. We went to the Rick Riordan and James Patterson appearance on May 25. The extra portion of SoN read by a professional narrator was heard for the first time. Rick did the same thing in March 2010 when he spoke at the MET in NYC. He read an extra portion of The Red Pyramid. It did not appear anywhere except on our site. After his appearance we had a private interview with him. His publicist then invited us to a private pre-release party for TRP the evening before the book was released on May 4,2010. We were granted a 2nd private interview with him that evening. Finally, last October 2010, 5 days prior to the release of The Lost Hero, his Disney publicist invited us to a phone/web live interview with Rick and several trade or newspaper reporters. The transcripts for all three of these interviews are on Mortalnet, on the Heroes of Olympus page - the thread is titled Our interviews with Rick 2010.

So with these credentials under our belt, I assure you that the portion of The Son of Neptune that was read to the audience and then transcribed onto MortalNet is the real thing. AND WHAT DID I SPELL WRONG?

I am sorry that my school year and home repair have taken priority over finding my USB cable so I can post the new section on youtube. Patience is a virtue, gain some, it will be rewarded.

There is still the chance your lying, and until its on the website by link or by text writing, it has no solid ground. This is my view, be it unconfirmed Pokemon, new Yu GI OH cards, or Son of Neptune parts. Also, that was one day before the 'First' chapter was put up on the site. If it took so long to add to the Wiki, the delay suggests decit. KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 22:51, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia, there is a reliable sources policy. This is not a reliable source. It's fanfic intended to fool you as Rick's. Sorry,  PJ101 ~  Chat  18:48, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Just because the source doesn't appear to be reliable doesn't make it a fanfic. I'm sure more evidence will come soon, whether for or against. Supernado (talk &bull; contribs) 21:17, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ah reason. And to Fanfics, on Fanfiction.net, there are about 292 Son of Neptune Fanfics...most of them horrible. Hence the distrucst. KrspaceT (talk &bull; contribs) 21:35, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think I will buy a new USB cable tomorrow, to silence all you naysayers.Poseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 22:55, June 5, 2011 (UTC) PS thanks Supernado and PJ101. =) Poseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 22:55, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

YOU NOW MAY SAY THANK YOU TO MORTALNET.COM and Poseidonsdaughter. Poseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 02:04, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Now confirmed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGAbfqtjUw. Poseidonsdaughter (talk &bull; contribs) 02:04, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

KrspaceT, I think thats evidence enough. You agree? If so you should add the summary back with a reference to the video. NavySealsGuy (talk &bull; contribs) 04:13, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

No, it was recorded with an apple. You cant use banana's to film things. And anyway, because only 1 (maybe two is this is real) chapters are out, people are excited and want to add as much detail as possible. Some of the other book plots are pretty long too. I think the Percy Jackson page is even longer but I cant for the life of me think of a way to shorten it. The problems of being the main character. Darkcloud1111 ~Fastest Hero Alive  21:28, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, we finally resolved this. We could have just mentioned the source as the NYC lecture and be done with it. Why did discussion have to be this long? Anyway, I know the plot for just two chapters is uber long so I trimmed it down to a manageable size. Note that we'll have to trim that down even more when the book comes similar to TLH.Dcmjlive (talk &bull; contribs) 05:29, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

1. First of all, you people are too skeptical!!! 2. Second of all, For those of you who are still skeptical about this sneak peek that was transcribed onto MortalNet, which, by the way, might as well be an official site because of all the information it gives and all the interviews it has, here is the official webcast website! http://www.RickAndJamesLive.com Connor Hagen (talk &bull; contribs) 13:30, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hidden Secret in the Title
Quite irrelevant, but has anyone noticed that Son of Neptune, when you use just the first letters they spell out SoN, change them all into non-caps (to make it easier to see) and it spells out 'son', which just happens to be the first word in the title (Son of Neptune).

Oh, and why does everyone keep calling Hera/Juno 'June'? Or are they talking about someone else? Misty Kitty (Yell at me here) 14:57, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Kitty, why is because it's obivous that June is Juno (Hera) by the way she smiles "like she had made some sort of joke." User: PJDMAY14

In the preview chapter, Percy has a choice between running to the camp or running to the water where he would be safe. A woman who calls herself June (saying the month was named after her) tells Percy that if he runs to the water, she would be at the mercy of two Gorgons or Percy could carry her to the camp entrance. Percy picks her up but the chapter ends soon after. Darkcloud1111 ~Fastest Hero Alive  14:29, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Has anyone actually noticed.....?
In the ancient myths, the 1st Jason carries Hera/Juno on his back across a river or something like that.

In the Son Of Neptune, Percy carries Hera/Juno on his back into a tunnel?

The child of Zeus is called JASON.

Coincidence?

not really, zeus named him jason so hera/juno didn't try to kill him (because the original jason was her favorite hero)

The woman with two dogs...
I think that woman Is Diana anyone else think so...? 69.131.198.47 17:29, August 10, 2011 (UTC) chaos

It actually looks more like a teenage girl than a woman... PJDMAY14 18:56, August 10,2011 (UTC)

I think she is a demigod daughter of Hecate because Dogs are Hecates sacred animals. But theres also the stone plate with the name Justitia behind her, so she might be a child of Justitia or some kind of bench in the roman camp. Just an idea. Mεηαrα Talk 00:18, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

did anyone notice that there is a face in the storm behind percy?!123tessa2 (talk &bull; contribs) 02:58, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

the son of neptune barnes and nobles exclusive rick riordan reading chapter 2
percy jackson fans urgent news if you go to google type in barnes and nobles excluisve video of rick riordan reading chapter 2 of the son of neptune. i am dead serious i just made an account so i could tell you chapter two is amazing it is the part when percy goes to the roman camp and fights the gorgons.

Could you provide a link, as I typed in what you have written and didnt find anything. Darkcloud1111 ~Fastest Hero Alive  18:45, August 20, 2011 (UTC)        the link is coming right up u will love the video