Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160902235812/@comment-24067344-20161216040330

Ea225225 wrote: RustumSonOfPoseidon21 wrote: What in the name of Hades?

MY BRO PERCY IS GONNA KICK JASONS HEINEY (lel)!

Percy Has Beaten Kronos!

No offense to Zeus supporters but.....Zeus AND Jason ARE DUMB PPL!

Note For Poseidon If They Have Internet At Olympus:PAPA, claim me pleazzzeee!!! Percy did NOT defeat Kronos.

Actually, he did, at least in a way. According to Gaea, he did. Here's The Part: The scene shifted. Percy stood on the Field of Mars, looking up at the Berkeley Hills. Golden grass rippled, and a face appeared in the landscape—a sleeping woman, her features formed from shadows and folds in the terrain. Her eyes remained closed, but her voice spoke in Percy’s mind:

So this is the demigod who destroyed my son Kronos. You don’t look like much, Percy Jackson, but you’re valuable to me. Come north. Meet Alcyoneus. Juno can play her little games with Greeks and Romans, but in the end, you will be my pawn. You will be the key to the gods’ defeat.

Also the Great Prophecy says:

The hero's soul, cursed blade shall reap,

A single choice shall end his days,

Olympus to preserve or raze.

According to the wiki:
 * Percy had to choose between giving Annabeth's knife to Luke and allow him to destroy himself, or trying to destroy Luke himself and failing, causing Kronos to burn away Luke's body as he took on his true form. Either choice would have caused Luke to die.
 * Percy's choice would result in the destruction of Olympus, or preserving Olympus the way it is.

Let me expand on the last sentence. So yes, the prophecy says Percy would have to make a choice, destroy Olympus, or preverse it. ut what kind of choice? Why would it destroy Olympus, and how? Well, obviously Kronos. But this is the part where I believe people are taking the "Percy didn't or did defeat Kronos" to extremely, when you can have an opinion that is not exactly either, but a bit more balanced. First of all, I think defeat is being used way to broadly here. Why? Because from what some of you have written, it seems like Percy can only defeat monsters psychically, and not in other ways, like instinct, will power or brain power, right? Percy doesn't have to destroy or injure Kronos to defeat him. What is defeat? Here's a definition that I like: Win a victory over (someone) in a battle or other contest; overcome them.

The definition seems to be quite clear, and more than merely killing him, or injuring him, which I'll explain. Percy did defeat Kronos, but not in physical way. He defeated him through his choice and what he choose to do. He defeated him, by giving the knife to Luke, so that Luke could kill him. Percy helped in the destruction of Kronos, and he earns credit for holding him off for such a long time, till Luke came along and get some control over Kronos, because of Annabeth.

Hell, even Annabeth gets some credit for the defeat of Kronos. The defeat of Kronos wasn't Luke only but it was a group effort, like many of the other feats that the heroes have done through the years. But honestly, it was ultimately because of Percy that Kronos truly got defeated. Why? Because of the choice he made. His choice, of either destroying Olympus or preserving was literally in his shoulders. NO ONE else could make that choice, except for him. I mean, think about it. If Annabeth could give the knife to Luke, why didn't she do it? Because she wasn't the chosen one. She wasn't the one who was gonna decide if she was gonna destroy of preserve Olympus. The fates have already shown that a choice can hell make a difference, but this brings me to my other point: Percy defeated Kronos because he ultimately overcame the tragedy, the stress, the pressure in that moment, if he should give the knife to Luke or not. Hell, his best friend Grover, thought he was crazy. Here's the part:

'''The line from the great prophecy echoed in my head: A hero's soul, cursed blade shall reap. My whole world tipped upside down, and I gave the knife to Luke.

Grover yelped. "Percy? Are you . . . um . . ."

Crazy. Insane. Off my rocker. Probably.'''

I mean, I believe Percy must've felt a bit betrayed during that moment, even if the author didn;t mention it much. But Annabeth was telling him to give him the knife, and he was like, what? There was tons of pressure in that moment. But her overcame it. He overcame the difficulties of this insane plan. Kronos ultimately was overcome because of Percy's choice. This is why Fatal Flaw are so dangerous. That's what kept Percy alive, and his friend alive. It what driven him to save his friends, no matter the cost. You don't have destroy your enemies. You don't even have to hurt them. You just have to overcome them, like an obstacle. Kronos was a huge obstacle, and it stood in Percy's way. But you know what could overcome that obstacle? The same fatal flaw that Kronos was using it against him, Percy this time, could use it against him. Anyways, I might as well be taking rubbish and nonsense, but I think Percy defeated Kronos through the choice and actions he did in those moments. And if he didn't, well, Kronos would've have been defeated. But this is IMHO.