Board Thread:Percy Jackson & the Olympians/@comment-29729973-20170412013346/@comment-32159399-20170616072110

Okay, I will refrain from making a decision yet as this is insanely tough. But I need to get some things clear.

First, Jason didn't defeat Krios with bare hands, he defeated him with his own hands and that is very different in defeating someone with bare hands. Defeating someone with bare hands means to defeat them in hand to hand combat. Defeating someone with your own hands means you killed or bested them yourself regardless of what weapon you used.

"The mighty Jason Grace. Yes we know of you son of Jupiter. The one who slew the Trojan Sea Monster, led the assault on Mount Tam, toppled the black throne of Kronos and singlehandedly defeated the Titan Krios with his own hands."

That was what Enceladus said to Jason in the Lost Hero. Also, when Jason kicked through Clytius's breastplate, he had a boost from the wind and Clytius's armour was weakened by Hazel's jewels. I know this is still a good feat, but not as good as some of you say.

As well as that, Jason fighting Enceladus while being pulled down by Gaea and while being injured is more of a test of agility than strength. I know he required strength to actually move in that situation but it doesn't nearly require as much strength as some of you say as Jason was actually dodging Enceladus's attacks and not matching them with his own strength.

Another thing, while Percy did have the Curse of Achilles when he fought Kronos, I think you forgot that Kronos also had the Curse as well. And yes, Kronos was in a weakened state but he still had most of his titan strength and powers and he still had a lot of physical strength.

"I met Kronos' first strike with Riptide. The impact shook the whole bridge but I stood my ground. Kronos's smile wavered."

Kronos's sheer strength was easily able to make an entire bridge shudder which proves that even in a weakened state, he still was very very strong and dare I say, still stronger than Krios.

I do agree that Percy used Porphyrion's own momentum to lift him off his feet. That still required strength but not as much strength as some think.

"As the giant king ran toward Piper, Percy grabbed the tip of Porphyrion's spear and forced it down into the ground using his own momentum to lift him off his feet ."

For now, I will refrain from picking a side until someone fully convinces me to do so.