Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160707163148/@comment-24067344-20160810165012

AACM12 wrote: but by then she was being aided by Hecate, what i mean is that she legitimately defeated Pasiphae with her own strength and power, but when it was with Clytius she was being aided, so while it was her own concentration, persistence and stubbornness, it wasn't purely her power, it's still an accomplishment but not one she would be able to accomplish on her own. (8th is gonna love me for this XD)for example i personally would not consider Jason as the one who defeated the bane of Athena(he did hold his own for a while) but he did not defeat him it was Zeus and without his aid he would've lost, correction he had already lost, but if we go to the fight of Percy vs Polybotes, Percy won by his own skill and prowess and merely required the aid of a god to end him but Polybotes was already defeated. So my point is that at least in my opinion hazel would've never stood a chance against Clytius without Hecate lending her strength.

Your bias here is painful. If you think defeating the most powerful sorceress in the Riordanverse is easy, then why do you keep acting as it isn't? You already admit that Hazel did defeat her. It is already known that defeating powerful beings isn't an easy thing, they can drain your power and weaken you significantly. Hell, Leo died defeating Gaea, and that was with the help of Jason and Piper as well. Jason needed help to defeat to both Porphyrion and Enceladus, and he couldn't do it alone, unlike Hazel, Frank (In The Son of Neptune) and Percy. Stop under-powering and under appreciating Hazel and her accomplishments. If you think someone aiding the heroes can't be considered a feat, than most of Jason's feats are nothing and can't be considered feat, like the one you mentioned, since he almost always have help, like some I mentioned above as well.