User talk:Thebiguglyalien

Is God of bloodlust?
Hi i am currently having a dispute with User Seekquake about the title of God of Bloodlust for Ares I believe bloodlust is included with war and i keep changing it to the two titles that the article had and then he wrote this Ares edited by Seekquaze1 14 minutes ago show me the change on this page

I will tell him it will be up to the admins ie you to sort this out but i have a feeling he will not listen. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 03:38, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

If I may, I made similar edits nearly a year ago and no other contributor in months has changed or complained about them. Several days ago another contributor named Ricorum disagreed with them and changed it. I started a discussion on the talk page to try and resolve our differences of opinion. I made some changes I thought would benefit us both. TheGhostMan changed everything back without a comment as to why. Twice I informed him to the talk page to try and discuss it. TheGhostMan never did. He only brought it up on the Zeus talk page for some reason which additionally I had a disagreement with him about and attempted to start a discussion. He chose not to respond to our disagreement concerning the Zeus article. Instead he focused on the Ares article on the Zeus talk page

By the way, I will agree with the decisions of the administrators. Please do not put words into my mouth or say what I will or will not do. (This part is addressed to TheGhostMan) Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 03:57, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Due to our disagreement over this Ares article TheGhostMan went to my talk page and in all caps yelled at me and engaged in name calling with the exact quote being: "I GAVE COMMENTS YOU LITTLE BRAT!!!! YOU JUST DIDN'T READ THEM." I believe this behavior is against wiki rules.

I will say that he apologized on my talk page later, but in it he makes specific reference to his application to become an administrator which I had lodged a complaint on. It is possible he is genuinely sorry and if so I accept it. It is also possible he only did so due to a fear of being denied becoming an administrator. Which it is I leave up to those who decide such things.Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 04:52, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Titan of time? Help please?
The Kronos page is driving me nuts. I can no longer change the name back to Kronos, as is should be. This is my official plea for help from an admin. Ricorum (talk &bull; contribs) 05:05, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

your messages are in your box.........you have to fix it...............seaquake is from myths not books.........he is wrong PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  18:48, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

how did you fix it? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  20:06, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

yea i realized after..............please do not edit my page for 5 mins.............i am working on it PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  20:10, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

sides?
I have to ask thebiguglyalien uh who's side would you take in my little fight with seekquaze? I am simply wondering because he said i was simply apologizing for the admin application which i was a little but it was so that i don't get to be the most hated person in the wiki. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 20:13, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

can you give me the code.........just repolace the link with 3 and give me pls PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  20:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

yep............please? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  20:19, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well basically since i am an avid editor of the wiki i noticed that seekquaze was constantly putting the title of God of Blood lust in the Ares article and i gave a reason the first time and he replaced the deleted title with the God of Bloodlust again and i removed it again not giving a reason as the reason was the same as the first edit i did and he simply kept putting it and he had put what i had put in the first message i gave you about this debate Do you even bother checking the discussion pages which i sensed a bit of attitude and since i was sleep deprived i lashed out at Seekquaze which i would normally never do calling him a little brat saying he never saw my reasons which were in the summary part of the edits. And then i apologized like the person i am and he then went and wrote a huge summary disagreeing with my application for adminship. That's all i can remember but if you look at your user talk and Seekquaze's you will see the entire thing. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 20:25, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

thx PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  20:32, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

But what do we do about his little monologue disagreeing with my adminship application? I agree with ever forgetting it ever happened. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 20:35, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rules
The link to the rules page is about half way down on the right side:

http://camphalfblood.wikia.com/wiki/Camp_Half-Blood_Wiki

The actual rules page is here:

http://camphalfblood.wikia.com/wiki/Camp_Half-Blood_Wiki:Policy

It is called the policy page, but the link it called rules and it comes across as rules or at the very least guidelines for behavior.Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 20:47, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Clarification on Canon Policy Please
Due to recent events and communications from other contributors I have come to understand that we are limited to Canon Policy. Many of the articles here feature information that to my knowledge is not found in any of the sources of canon listed on the canon policy page: http://camphalfblood.wikia.com/wiki/Camp_Half-Blood_Wiki:Canon_policy

Some of these include individual differences between the Greek and Roman counterparts of the gods (aside from those explicity described in "The Lost Hero" and the overall general differences), histories in ancient times, children not explicitly mentioned in the books, symbols associated with the gods not mentioned, etc. The Heracles article is one that relies heavily on myth and not the books, but nearly all of them ranging from Ares to Zeus to Dionysus the article about the Titans. However, it is not limited to them.

Should items myth be eliminated then? If not, why are they allowed? If in the future a disagreement comes up between something that is mythological and perhaps implied by canon, but not found beyond any doubt in any source of canon that either directly supports it or refutus it then how it is to be known whether to include the information?

Also, could you please let me know clearly what books are considered canon? I believe ones written by the author are, but there are several books that claim to be "guides" that seem to be endorsed by the author and contain information not found in the books, but are not written by the author.

Thank you for your time.Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 22:19, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

This is going too far Seekquaze is continuing to clutter the admin nomination page and defacing my application going as far as I see it to goad me out to start another fight with him and not dropping the Ares fight. Is there any thing we can do to make him stop short of banning him? TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 22:54, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

On the contrary, I am doing this in an attempt to avoid problems like this in the future as I have explained. It has been stressed to me several times over the past day or so that only things from canon material are to be accepted on this site. Our disagreement merely is a result of a misunderstanding on a greater matter. In this wiki there are things stated outright from canon. Then there are things implied from canon. Then there are things taken only from the myths. Our disagreement involved the latter two. Our disagreement about Ares is a combination of what I read being implied from the books supported by myths. However, several contributors have pointed out on several different places only things from canon are to be accepted. To avoid such mistakes in the future I wish to know where the line is drawn. If canon itself is the only thing to be accepted than wouldn't it improve the wiki to delete everything that is not taken directly from canon? However, if some things from myth are allowed I would like to know how to pick and choose. If I believe something is implied from canon material and someone else disagrees I would like to know how such a disagreement can be discussed and resolved peacefully.

Am I still allowed to ask questions? If not then how I am I to inquire about matters like this? As to asking different contributors, due to the somewhat fluid nature of wikis I find it best to consult several opinions to find out where things stand. I am not trying to clutter up anyting.

To thebiguglyaline, I am not trying to cause trouble. I just realized what I thought was a minor issue is part of a much larger one. To try and avoid trouble in the future I am trying to clarify everything now. I am not trying to sabotage TheGhostMan's application. I was under the impression that that was the place where we were meant to voice our concerns. Have I gotten this wrong? Would you or someone else please make it clear the points I have asked to try and avoid disagreements like this in the future. Am I wrong in even asking this?Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 23:10, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

oh gosh................what is your problem?!!!!!!!!!...............i said DROP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

I don't care about that Ares issue anymore. What I keep trying to do is learn more to avoid problems like that in the future. What concern is that to you?Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 23:42, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

PS-hello,what's up? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah! You're an admin on the Last Airbender wiki! I might write their someday.

Roxas Oathkeeper Keyblade Oblivion Keyblade 23:27, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Who is allowed to delete arguments from the Camp Half-Blood Wiki:Requests for Adminship page?
Twice now my arguments from the Camp Half-Blood Wiki:Requests for Adminship page have been deleted by another contributor. They claim my arguments have nothing to do with the applicatio of TheGhostMan. My arguments were posted in reponse to the deleting contributors arguments against mine. I admit some of my arguments in all likilihood got off track, but they were in response to his arguments which themselves have nothing to do with the matter of TheGhostMan's application. What does his fith points: "in myths he was sometimes a coward sometimes a hero.......contradictory" have to do with anything? Does he have some authority to delete things I do not know about? Also, I have posted questions on several talk pages in an attempt to avoid messes like this in the future. Yet everywhere either PerseusJackson respons when it has nothing to do with them. They tell me to just drop it when all I am doing is trying to get clarification on some issues. Or is seeking knowledge now a crime here?

Thank you for your time.Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 00:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh! K.

Roxas Oathkeeper Keyblade Oblivion Keyblade 00:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

persistant isn't he? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  00:42, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

PS-If i were you i would tell him to shut up or be banned lol PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  00:42, March 24, 2011 (UTC)'

I simply find this funny that the two admins Seekquaze goes running to are the two that sided with me. It's hilarious/TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 00:49, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

well then i tip my hat to you......i am getting mad at him.......look at the edit i removed........he keeps sayin theghostman left no message when heleft a message 40 minutes before the argument and brings up a canon policy because i started it? I just said why thghostman was allowed to remove the title.........and you know what is funny?.........this is about a title PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  00:49, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

sooo...what do you plan to do? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  00:54, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

lol PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  00:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Even if we could forget Thebiguglyalien. That person won't he'll just keep trying to cause more problems. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 01:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

1. I know this may be yelling and considered rude, but I want to try and make this perfectly clear...I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ARES THING ANYMORE! THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT!!

I have been told several times in the last twenty-four hours that we are only supposed to use canon policy approved materials. I have been told that since that was not explicity canon it does not go. Fine. I accept that. Mythology is not in any of the preapproved sources of canon. Many articles on this site use materials that are from mythology and not found anywhere in canon. I am attempting to find out where the line is drawn to avoid problems like this in the future. Instead of trying to answer my questions for the most part all the two of you have done is constantly told me to drop it even when I have asked the questions on talk pages that are not yours and not addressed to either of you. PerseusJackson has given a brief answer to my questions, but not a thorogh one that I am seeking. I request one to try and avoid problems like this in the future.

2. I don't care about Ares, but since you two keep insisting on bringing it up. My bases was not entirely on mythology but IN THE BOOKS as well. When around Ares Percy admits to feeling increase anger and a willingness to do violence in the diner scene. When Clarrisse receives the blessing of Ares she is full of rage and battle fury. Nothing about increase violence or bloodlust is mentioned about the other Olympian goddess of war Athena. I relented on the part about courage because I was convinced by Ricorum's arguments. I changed the titles slightly to try and better reflect what part of war Ares was and I added on to the Mars section to address Ricorum's concerns about the differences between them. I was following the lead of other articles in this wiki.

3. TheGhostMan changed it three times before a fourth final time. The first time he did not leave a comment and changed both things back. The second time he left a comment that I did not fully understand his reasoning behind. That comment is as follows: "Stop reverting them to bad edits Unless Supernado or the other admins say the articles stay as they have been before)" To me it came across as if only the adminstrators could edit the Ares article, but I did not see a note of it on the Ares page. I asked TheGhostMan to try and discuss it on the talk page. He did not. The third change he did not leave a comment either. I again asked him to try and calmly discuss it on the talk page. Again he did not. The fourth change he did finally leave another comment: "The title of God of Bloodlust is not included in the books so off it goes." This change came hours after I had first posted my concerns on the Administrator application form. If he has posted another summary comment on the Ares section than prove me wrong, assume I am a complete moron, and copy and paste it here please.

By the way, if I had perfectly understood his comments do you think I would keep requesting that we talk about it?

4. I have checked the Ares talk page. None of the comments TheGhostMan has made on that page were addressed to anything I posted.

5. To my knowledge, the only other comment he made was on the Zeus talk page. I had started a discussion on another disagreement between us. I do not know why he decided to talk about the Ares disagreement there and not on the Ares talk page. His comment was something I had already addressed with Ricorum.

6. My comments regarding TheGhostMan's application were due to the difficulty I was having with him. I admit on reflection he did leave one comment and two blank ones. I admit in my haste I worded it wrongly. I have since corrected it.

7. My response to PerseusJackon was an attempt to better explain my postition. He accussed me of getting off topic, but only a few of his arguments were related. What does his alterations ot the article have to do with TheGhostMan? I did not have a problem with any of PerseusJackson's edits so I did not try to debate them. What does Ares being a hero or not have to do with TheGhostMan? I agreed with Ricorum and dropped that? Where did TheGhostMan mention canon policy until hourse after the little edit war?

8. Due to being told several times about the strictist of canon policy I have been trying to get a better idea of what is and is not allowed and why. I kept trying to let the Ares thing die, but you two kept bringing it up.

9. The reason I have appealed to the administrators is I assume they are fair, just, and willing to explain serious questions I have about the rules and policies. If I am wrong about this please let me know.

10. My questions on this board have been specifically addressed to Thebigalienguy. I have tried to avoid you two for the past while to prevent further friction after communication from PerseusJackson to me implied he did not want to talk to me anymore. This was before his comments on my board about his "williness" to discuss things. So why do the two of you keep going to ever board I go to and addressing questions that you are not being asked and not even truly answering the question? I have been trying to avoid the two of you to prevent further fights and understand to what degree we are limited to canon material, to what degree we can draw upon mythology, and to what degree we can infer from canon material. It may have arose out of the Ares disagreement, but I have been trying to move past that. Why can't you?

To thebigalienguy, could you please give me some response to my questions so I can avoid things like this in the future? If a person is unwilling to go to the talk page to discuss something I have at the very least inferred from canon and am basing my reasoning on the abundence of other mythological references than what am I supposed to do?

I apologize if I am a bother Thebigalienguy, I am just trying to get some sort of answer.Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 01:53, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

ROTFL PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  01:18, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. I had Thebigaleinguy in my head for some reason. Darkcloud1111 ~Fastest Hero Alive  01:19, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

It is acctually ROFL, as the 'the' is silent. Darkcloud1111 ~Fastest Hero Alive  01:35, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I could make another one. I normally just hit my End key so it doesnt bother me as much. Darkcloud1111 ~Fastest Hero Alive  01:42, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

no prob...i am not either PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  01:42, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

He's at it again. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 01:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

If we are forgetting everything that happened between ll of us concerning the fight does that mean his vote and mini monologue are null and void? It is a valid question. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 02:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

sooooo...if i go up for admin will you support me? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  13:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

you will notice that all except one member of the disputes committee are inactive for more that 2 mths.............we need to elect more................ PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  13:33, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

You said I could talk to you.
You said to forgive and forget. Yet depsite this PerseusJackson and TheGhostMan insist on constantly bringing up an incident that I tried to let got the other day. Vgfsirius stated to only use book titles on the Ares article so to better follow that I edited it. You seem to be a good friend of their's. Could you please explain to them that I don't care about that? Could you please explain to them that I accepted the adminstrator's decision a long time ago? Could you please explain to them that my questions yesterday were an attempt to get a better idea on certain policies and that I did not give a care about the Ares thing? Could you please try and convicne them to leave me the heck alone?

Thank you for your time.Seekquaze1 (talk &bull; contribs) 20:50, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

P. S. ThGhostMan and PerseusJacksonm, this is not addressed to you. This is not meant for you. It is meant for thebiguglealien which is why it is on his page. Please do not bother responding to it.

oh boy...........what did i do now?????!!!!!!!! PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  16:39, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Dude if this is about what i wrote on Perseus' page i was complaining about how you worded stuff! Like you think your better then everyone else. That's it! no need to go complain about every little thing. TheGhostMan May the Underworld protect your soul when you enter. 16:43, March 24, 2011 (UTC) P.S. I just thought it was weird that you put this Per Administrator Vgfsirius decision and with respect to canon policy all titles save "God of War" have been removed. We don't live in a steam punk world. No need to word it like we live in Victorian England.

lol.....i used some of it.......i simply did not know how to end it.......i used your size and everything else(excluding some of the archives ) were mine PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  22:49, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

lol..........i used my own for the one on my prof though PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * does an irish jig* PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:02, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

* floats away* oops....sorry i usually do.. PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:06, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

read what Seaquaze1 left you PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:06, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

thx a lot PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:07, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

what do you think? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:08, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

and pants?? PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:10, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

* shrugs* no not really PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:14, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

i already ate ambrosia and drank nector..........i am a son of poseidon remember PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:16, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

i agree PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:18, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

* ......douses it with water powers* PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:20, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

(freezes Thebiguglyalien and eats all the ambrosia) PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

(sighs........cools the fire and freezes TBUA and throws him in a freezer) PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:25, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

MMUUUUHHHHHAAHHHHAAAA (in the sea.......you will drown) PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:33, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

choose one of the names in the blog please PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:33, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

(gets mad and creates tsunami and kills turtle and damages Zeus.......then Poseidon came and defeats Zeus..............i win)l PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:36, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

choose an option please PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

thank yoy.....just to rub salt in the wound i taped the entire thing nd now al the gods are laughing at you PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:38, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

lol PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:42, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

RAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH (I trip off and start to destroy the characters........even the gods who are wathching on TV are frightened as i take them apart as a Typhon would take apart a house.....DON'T MESS WITH JORDAN TERRAEMOTUS TEMPESTAS PerseusJackson -Leader and Protector of all Demigods  23:45, March 24, 2011 (UTC)