Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160902235812/@comment-31636400-20170411040538

Jason grace is op wrote: Pro time wrote:

Jason grace is op wrote: Jason wins because he can just use winds to kill Percy and Jason's wind powers don't drain him a lot while Percy summoning impure water drains him. Also, Jason defeated Krios with bare hands and Percy was nearly defeated by Iapestus who was weaker than Krios. Percy also had the curse of Achilles when he fought Hyperion and Kronos. Seriously? Firstly, Jason's wind powers do drain him as shown in MoA. Percy's hurricane can render those winds ineffective but does not waste more energy than Jason's repeated wind gusts. Percy was drained when he summoned water because he blew up a volcano, destroyed thousands of telekhines and released Typhon He doesn't need to do that in a fight with another half-blood.

Jason did not defeat Krios with his "bare hands" but with his "own hands". We did not see the fight and in the Titan's own words he "got lucky". All sources unanimously agree that Iapetus is stronger than Krios. Wikipedia itself says that, next to Hyperion, Iapetus was the second strongest Titan who was a ruler of a region of the Earth and that Krios is regarded as the weakest (wasn't allowed to participate in the Olympian invasion). Percy didn't need the curse of Achilles to beat Hyperion (He used a hurricane) and it was a fair fight between him and Kronos as Kronos also had the curse of Achilles. Percy was also able to hold out in a fight against him when he didn't have the curse of Achilles.

It was also Percy's idea that trapped Atlas (2nd strongest Titan overall) under the weight of the sky which involved holding up the weight of the sky. Jason's wind powers don't drain him much anyway. And I said it was the summoning of pure water that drains Jason. And enceladus said that Jason slew Krios with bare hands. Tartarus said that Iapetus was weaker than Krios and Hyperion. And Percy had the curse WHEN he fought Hyperion so it helped him. Jason with the curse would have also defeated Kronos.

Dude, did you read what I wrote?

Let's get some things straight. First of all @Jason grace is op: Iapestus is NOT weaker than Krios. You have no reference in that whatsoever except for Tartarus's word. But protengei like Tartarus have a way of bending the truth to fit their own benefits so you can't trust Tartarus's word. He was able to hold his own against Kronos+Luke with the curse of achilles on the boat by himself, with no aid at all. Here's an example of how Percy could've injured Kronos if it weren't for the curse of achilles: I stumbled backward, switched my sword to my left hand, and lunged desperately. My blade should've run him through, but it deflected off his stomach like I was hitting solid marble. There was no way he should've survived that.

And yet Kronos did survive it, because he had the curse of Achilles. Also, Percy himself was able to overcome the curse, something that not even Jason would've been able to do: Suddenly there was a wrenching pain in my gut. The entire boat lurched sideways, throwing monsters off their feet. Four thousand gallons of salt water surged out of the swimming pool, dousing me and Kronos and everyone on the deck. The water revitalized me, breaking the time spell, and I lunged forward. And did you forget that Percy had to fight several hundred monsters before he fought Kronos? I sliced through armor like it was made of paper. Snake woman exploded. Hellhounds melted into shadow. I slashed and stabbed and whirled, and I might have even laughed once or twice-a crazy laugh that scared me as much as it did my enemies. I was aware of the Apollo campers behind me shooting arrows, disrupting any attempt by the enemy to rally. Finally, the monsters turned and fled-about twenty out of two hundred. And how about the fact that The Curse of achilles make Percy tire a lot faster than usual? "You may be invulnerable in combat," Chiron said. "But that will only make your body tire faster. I remember Achilles. Whenever that lad was not fighting, he was sleeping. He must've taken twenty naps a day." As for Hyperion, Percy probably could have beat Hyperion without the curse of Achilles too as it was literally a fire vs water fight and the curse only helps with swordplay. The only time he might have needed it was when: Hyperion waved his hand and a wall of force slammed into me. I went sailing 300 feet backwards across the park. However, Percy has been able to take even stronger blows than that without the curse of Achilles and later fight deities similar in power to Hyperion. For instance, Porphyrion backhanded Percy like a pesky fly. The son of Poseidon went flying and crashed into one of the columns with a sickening crunch. And later, Percy was able to hold his own against Thoon. Percy was back on his feet, Riptide in his hand. He looked dazed and had a nosebleed but he seemed to be holding his own against the old giant Thoon who had somehow reattached his hand and found his meat cleaver. Percy was also flicked across the room by Kronos and later, was able to still fight Kronos himself. Kronos looked at me with an amused smile. Then he flicked his finger and I went flying across the room, slamming into a wall. I struggled to regain my footing but Kronos was already on his feet, his scythe in his hands. Percy defeating Iapetus is also underrated to a point in which I think people don't think it's a good feat anymore. Let's not forget that Percy was critically injured in that fight and was tired from allowing Thalia and Nico to cross the Lethe. I raised my arms like I was lifting something over my head. My bad shoulder burned like lava, but I tried to ignore it. The river rose. It surged out of its banks, flowing up and then down again in a great arc-a raging black rainbow of water twenty feet high. The riverbed in front of us turned to drying mud, a tunnel under the river just wide enough for two people to walk side by side. And yet, Percy was able to dodge a lot of Iapetus's attacks and injure him while Nico and Thalia who are arguably stronger demigods than Jason were literally defeated in like one second. Iapestus swung his spear like a tornado and I was just able to dodge his strikes. Even weakened and just out of the pit, that guy was fast. I barely to managed to dodge his spear as it impaled on the rock I was just standing on. Iapestus was weakened but that only deters him from releasing his divine form.And if his divine form is released, then no demigod will stand a chance against him as the divine form will just rip them into pieces. Now for the Ares feat. How many times do I have to say this feat is not flawed? People think it is flawed because Percy beat Ares but Percy was beaten by Luke who was beaten by Ares. First of all, Percy was out of practiced when he fought Luke and his sword was also unbalanced in his hand. As for Chrysoar, people think that the Ares feat is flawed as Percy lost to Chrysoar who was considered in a similar power level as Ares. Percy was also rusty against Chrysoar. Many of Percy's powers have grown stronger since then but too late, Percy realized that swordplay wasn't one of them. He was rusty, at least against an adversary like Chrysoar. That was from MOA in Percy's fight with Chrysoar. So Percy was also out of practiced when he fought Chrysoar. In conclusion, the Ares feat is NOT flawed. Yes Percy needed to push Ares into water to eventually defeat him but before that, Percy was able to hold his own against Ares on completely equal footing.

Ares cleaved downward at my head, but I wasn't there.

My body thought for me. The water seemed to push me into the air and I catapoluted over him, slashing as I came down. But Ares was just as quick. He twisted, and the strike that should've caught him directly in the spine was deflected off the end of his sword hilt. His sword had a reach several feet longer than Riptide. He knocked my blade out of my hands and kicked me in the chest. I went airborne, twenty, maybe thirty feet. I would've broken my back if I hadn't crashed into the soft sand of a sand dune. I could see where Ares was tensing. I could tell which way he would strike. At the same time, I was aware of Annabeth and Grover, thirty feet to my left. I felt the rhythm of the sea, the waves growing larger as the tide rolled in, and suddenly I had an idea. Little waves, I thought. And the waves behind me seemed to recede. I was holding back the tide by force of will, but tension was building, like carbonation behind a cork. I released the tide and jumped, rocketing straight over Ares on a wave. A six foot wall of water smashed him full in the face, leaving him cursing and sputtering with a mouth full of seaweed. I landed behind him with a splash and feinted toward his head, as I done before. He turned in time to raise his sword, but this time he was disoriented, he didn't anticipate the trick. I changed direction, lunged to the side, and stabbed Riptide straight down in the water, sending the point through the god's heel.

It was only in the end did Percy use his powers so it should be noted that outside of water, Percy was equal to Ares and inside water, he was stronger than the war god. And that was when Percy was only twelve with barely any training at all. Let's no forget that Percy has more durability than Jason. Jason trips, he faints. "He must die.” Jason turned his attention back to Percy, but Percy had recovered more than either of them realized. He swept out his leg and knocked Jason off his feet. Jason’s head hit the asphalt with a nauseating conk. He gets hit by a brick, he faints. Percy on the other hand was able to withstand the curse of Geryon, The Curse of Phineas and dozens of other curses and still fight. Percy was also able to withstand getting backhanded by Porphyrion and getting flicked hard by Kronos and later still fight. How about the time Enceladus dropped Percy 20 feet to the ground. Percy was also able to survive Tartarus which is an excellent feat considering that he and Annabeth faced dozens of terrors down there like Akhlys, Nyx and all of her children, the Arai and even Tartarus himself who outclasses even the gods and titans and giants. About bloodbending, Percy was able to actually move poison when not in Tartarus. He(Polybotes) hurled some(poison) at Percy but he deflected it with his will. If he was able to control poison, there is a possibility that he is able to control blood. I know we can't assume this but it is a logical assumption. With the battle with Polybotes, Percy was literally facing the bane of his father and we can't forget that Polybotes had an extremely negative effect on Percy. Still Percy was able to defeat Polybotes. Jason was able to fight Porphyrion but for like 30 seconds. He just grabbed a sword on his braids of hair and shot him with lightning and did nothing else. He was going to die but at that time, Hera became free and unleased her divine form upon the giant. The second time Jason fought Porphyrion, he had the help of Zeus.

In conclusion, I think Percy should win 6 times out of 10. It will definitely be a hard fight with a lot of bloodshed but Percy should prevail. Sorry for the long rant and reply.