Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160707163148/@comment-24067344-20160802174101

8th Hero of Olympus wrote: Commander Tool Belt wrote: But Hazel said when Percy arrived she had known immediately that he was powerful, because he had an aura of power. Even more so than her own brother. Hazel had seen Jason too, so if Percy had an aura of power and Jason didn't, then...? The exact wording is important here - Hazel actually said that before Percy turned up, Nico had been the most powerful demigod she knew, MAYBE even more dangerous than Jason. Hazel uses MAYBE, indicating that she wasn't entirely sure, and, as we learn in "House of Hades", Hazel and Jason did not know each other very well before Jason's disappearance, so she might not have been entirely familiar with the full magnitude of Jason's powers (and as Dylan states in "Blood of Olympus", Jason has become more powerful since "Lost Hero"). Moreover, while Hazel does say that Nico had been the most powerful BEFORE Percy turned up, that doesn't necessarily mean that Percy is more powerful than Nico, as it it could instead merely mean that the 2 of them are equivalently powerful. Yes, Nico did state in "House of Hades" that Percy was the most powerful demigod he's ever meet, but we shouldn't necessarily take Nico's word for it, as his strong crush on Percy (which Nico had still not gotten over at the time), does give him a considerable bias here. Thea Jackson Percys sister wrote:

Or she could just shadow-travel - did we forget about that? Nico did it falling down, I am pretty sure Hazel could do it while she is being lifted off the ground. Ah, but see, Shadow-travel, while it can be an advantage, can also be an equivalently big weakness - Nico, a more experienced and skilled Shadow-traveler, is considerably weakened after every single time he does it, and he admits to having passed out for quite a while after every time he tried it for the first few times. Hence, even if Hazel could Shadow-travel away from Jason back to the ground, she would be extremely weakened by the required effort, making it easy for him to finish her off. Hazel could, of course Shadow-travel away much further, out of his reach, but all that does is makes this battle a tie of sorts (somewhat more in Jason's favor), leading us back to square one on who would actually win.

First of all, Nico stated that Percy was the most powerful demigod in The Mark of Athena, not House of Hades. Second of all, and I hate arguing about this, but seriously, any reader will know, that Nico being gay came out of nowhere, and it has been argued over and over again. It is supposedly said that Riordan came up with this idea in The Heroes of Olympus, meaning Nico wasn't originally homosexual, or wasn't Riordan original plan. But since he probably had no other excuse (Besides Nico being gay, which he did) to bring up of why Nico was so solitary, dull, dark, cold and full of hatred for apparently very few reasons.

I don't know where I heard this, but it could be true. So, if it's true, it tells me that Nico was telling them literal truth, from his experience of seeing Percy's powers grow over the years, and battling monsters perhaps before Riordan planned or even thought of making Nico gay, or announced that he was gay publicly to us, the readers. Also, even if Nico was in love with Percy the whole time I'll argue with the fact that Nico was visiting Camp Jupiter quite frequently, and probably has seen Jason several times, maybe even in comba. So, that doesn't mean he was being biased -you don't have enough proof about that- besides the obvious admiration Nico had for Percy, though it is explained in the series already of why he was.

Also, you seemed to be desperate. You use Dylan as an example of Jason becoming much more powerful in The Blood of Olympus, but you don't let us use the example of Nico? Nico's example is more valid, since he knew Percy much longer than Dylan knowing Jason. Plus, Nico both knew Percy and Jason, while Dylan didn't know Percy. If Dylan knew Percy, would have he said the same thing? Most likely yes, since it is obvious that Percy grew in power throughout the series. Just because on monster says that Jason grew much more powerful doesn't mean the others didn't; that's being ignorant and showing the fact that you only seem to appreciate and concentrate on Jason's growth, and not the others. I've heard it is better to show than tell. If Riordan is telling us that Jason grew much more powerful, and not the others, isn't something wrong? Yes, it is. While Riordan did it with others, he seems to push the agenda of Jason-is-equal-with-Percy-and-is-as-good-as-Percy, much stronger than with others. Once again, I'll argue with the fact that Riordan needed to give Jason a huge boost in power, to be equal with Percy in power, considering the fact that he didn't look that powerful at all. As a writer, it's most probable that he had to do that, just like Frank's Shape-shifting was a plot device, as well with Hazel's control of the mist being totally unecessary and a way of making Hazel more powerful when she was pretty powerful already.

And talking about that, you talk about Jason being much more powerful, when you realized most of the 7 were extremely nerfed in power in The Blood of Olympus, and you use that example of Dylan?

It really shows your bias 8th, since you took that quote out of context, when you actually have to read the entire book, see what the others did (Which they didn't do much; just another way of making Jason more powerful when he really wasn't), what was the author's purpose with this, if this was only a mere plot device or not like he did with the others, or just a confirmation of the author that Percy was no longer the strongest, or if this was a deus es machina, or he had to to make Jason the strongest because of his parentage, which The Lost Hero seemed to imply that Jupiter's Children are the strongest, best etc, and what the author was desperately trying to do, which was, trying to redeem Jason and Piper, and making them as badass and Percy and Annabeth, which he failed and obviously can't re-use the same formula on McGrace.

So, you are telling us, that Jason became much more powerful, while Riordan nerfed Percy and the others extremely, just to make Jason "look" more powerful, while giving him a huge boost in power, even though it was not enough to be equal with Percy, since it would be to obvious that Riordan was power-boosting Jason too much offscreen and onscreen? (Which makes it even more obvious and painful on how desperate Riordan was trying on making Jason look cool and awesome to us readers) When it isn't said onscreen that Jason was training a lot with his powers? Wow, thinking about this deeply makes me wonder why Jason looked so powerful in The Blood of Olympus, when he really was't.