Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24252521-20171123044845/@comment-27320292-20180406235356

Lostofme wrote: ''What's the use of having such a power if you can't use it on others in the name of morality and selfishness? None of her selfish desires were harmful in any way.''Oh, well. If you're thinking that is okay, what can I say to you? You really lack of understanding the difference between the abusive relationship and the healthy relationship

And Bella...

You are overreacting, my friend, you're overracting as Piper. And as Philosophernoct said, all teenages have problems like that. But Piper's actions and thoughts are extreme. Simply, extreme.

You're saying, you're not blinded by Piper's love? Eh, yeah, sure.

Piper's dad is not like Rachel's father. He is not throwing metarials to Piper's face, or he is not sending Piper to the schools like Rachel's father did to her. There is a difference between those two people aka The Piper's dad and The Rachel's dad. Rachel's dad even does not go to the picnics with her or he doesn't singing songs to Rachel like Piper's dad does to Piper. I'm sorry, but what abandonment issues? Did Rachel went to stealing cars like Piper? No. Did Rachel whined over Oh, I'm sooo rich, this could be a curse! like Piper? No.

You can't say this, Im not blinded by Piper' love. Because, you are blinded, obviously. As I said before, Leo and Calypso are the one, who suffered because of real abandonment issues. Calypso, for centuries. Leo, he even suffered because of his friends aka The Jason and The Piper. Everyone has problems. Get over with it. There is no need to be acting so illogical, there is no need to be acting so extreme like that, even If you're a teenage girl. And wait, I'm sure Piper's dad nearly went to the jail because of her actions? By the way, what do you think about that;

''I'm not saying that Piper has no issues like that, I am saying that, in her case, her toughts and actions are extreme. And there is another problem, she never felt guilt about it. You, maybe, can steal cars, okay. We are talking about a teenage girl here, so, fine. But, If you never felt any guilt about it, I call that is a problematic. Because at least, when you hurt someone you love, you show guilt. In normal terms, of course, If you are a human.'' No indeed, Tristan is not like Rachel's father. But that doesn't excuse his mistakes and their effect on his daughter. He didn't up and leave, but name one moment after his acting career took off that he actually talked to Piper about her feelings. Properly. And spending time with her is not good enough, a time they actually had a talk about HER feelings.

Rachel did not whine about riches because it did not take away her dad's affection from her. She didn't have it in the first place, there was nothing to lose so to say. And while he's not exactly throwing materials in Piper's face, he's not addressing the problem. Like, at all. In fact, he's avoiding it. He's heaving off more and more of his parenting off to Jane. And Rachel at least has her art and her friends as a coping mechanism. Piper has... what? Jane, whom she doesn't even like and is confirmed to be manipulating her dad into spending time away from her by Medea?

Leo and Calypso are a mixed bag. Both of their guardians are neglectful or downright abusive. And just because Piper's dad didn't abandon her like Calypso and Leo's guardians, that somehow vindicates his actions? Invalidates the effects, which can be seen throughout TLH?

And here's what I think of the "her dad almost went to jail thing": The dealership did not press charges in exchange for Piper going to the Wilderness school. And why on earth would he go to prison? I can't find any mention in the California law that would end with HIM in prison unless Piper caused a car accident and it was not mentioned.

And of course her thoughts and actions are extreme. She's getting results from them. Granted, not good results, but something. And in the case where her dad is talking about the car? She's angry instead of guilty because her dad is not willing to open his ear and listen to his daughter for once and she's sick of it.

"'No,' she thought. 'You've cut off this conversation. For years.'

And even her dad knows he's not being there for her emotionally.

"As if your life without me was better, or safer."

And a little quote of Piper feeling guilty about using charmspeak:

"Jason raised his eyebrows at Piper, obviously impressed, but Piper felt miserable. She didn't want to twist people's minds, convince them of things they didn't believe. It felt so bossy, so wrong-like something Drew would do back at camp, or Medea in her evil department store."