Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24252521-20171123044845/@comment-27320292-20180407195550

Philosophernoct wrote: Not just attention, a positive attention. Piper actions caused her to get attention from her dad, but in a negative way.

In the Last Olympian or another book, I don't remember very well, Rachel's father starting to respect her and Rachel finally achieved a positive attention from her father, finally. So, she had. And while we, yes, didn't see the hole story about Rachel's family, we, at least know that her father is finally respecting her now. Maybe her dad had respected her in the first place or before then, but since in the first series, in the Pjo, we barely seen other character's family lives. I mean, we even didn't know about Annabeth's family that much. But as far as we know about Rachel's life, we at least know about her family life and we know that she earned respect and a positive attention from her father because she tried.

And, please, why even Jane is a straight up-b***?

Rachel at least has a social circle with her hobby. Eh, Bella, but this is what I'm trying to explain to you here, in the first place? Piper could've done something like that, she could've something like good and usefull like that.

''Children of movie stars tend to get more people trying to suck up to them. I can acknowledge that Piper's actions are not mature decisions, but there ARE kids who do steal to get their parent's attention because nothing else works. We have no confirmation of what Piper tried before stealing, but we know that she knows she gets results from doing this and she does suffer consequences that tell her that maybe this wasn't the best idea. ''

Not good results, only bad results and negative results. And yeah, this wasn't the best idea, yes, since, it only caused negative situations.

Honestly, don't you think it is wasted and illogical? Piper really could've something good rather than stealing cars. She could've singing, for example (and I said this before but you ignored it I suppose), since in the series, many characters said that Piper has a nice voice and even not just nice, a strong voice. If she had done something like that, she could've had a social circle with her hobby, just like Rachel. I don't know where you got the idea that Rachel's father started to respect her, because I combed through The Last Olympian (where any mention of this would have most likely taken place) and there was NOTHING about Mr. Dare beginning to respect his daughter. If you mean this part:

"Rachel flung her arms around him, and her father seemed surprised, like she'd never hugged him before. "I'll make it up to you, Dad!""

Then I'm calling BS, because right after that comes:

"He smiled, but his expression was chilly. He studied her like he wasn't seeing his daughter—just the young lady he wanted her to be, once Clarion Academy got through with her."

So that whole part of your argument of Rachel earning the respect of her dad is null.

And why is Jane a straight-up b****? Oh I don't know, maybe because she doesn't call the police when Piper's dad goes missing!

I ignored the singing thing because Piper doesn't really seem that passionate about singing. Rachel, we know, is crazy invested and passionate about art. And yeah, Piper could probably make a whole career out of her singing voice, but when you're not passionate about it? It becomes a chore. I know this woman's son who is crazy good at engineering but he didn't take it up because he wasn't interested in it. If you're not interested in something and you pick it up, it's more likely to be detrimental in the future.