Board Thread:Antaeus' Arena: Audience Chamber/@comment-1515612-20160820001629/@comment-39953712-20190918014529

Chiron66 wrote: Why Nico is more powerful than PercyFor the record, this is not a death battle. It is only judging which is more powerful/skilled. All information comes from this Fandom.

First let’s start with weapons/equipment and fighting skill. Percy is a great swordsman, yes, but so is Nico. He is shown to be able to keep up with Percy and Thalia in The Demigod Files. It is also shown that he has improved in skill since then. And most battles he enters, he exits unscathed. He also explicitly says that he trains with the dead. Which would include some of the greatest heroes/warriors of all time. Percy is called one of the greatest fighters in the last 300 years besides Luke. But this statement comes before Nico learns to wield a sword well and before he even cane to Camp. And not many from Camp Half-Blood have ever seen him fight since he left Camp and had only started staying there after the 2cd Giant war. Percy is an incredible fighter but we have seen him fight Jason and Luke and they were almost even. And Nico survived Tartarus, alone. Percy did not. I’m calling this as a draw. Or I would if it wasn’t for the weapons. Percy’s Sword is cool but the only helpful thing is that it turns small and returns to him. Nico’s Sword can steal the souls of others and use them to make himself/sword more powerful. Percy’s Sword, Riptide, is still a normal sword. And the magic of it returning takes a few moments where Percy is more vulnerable. And the last part that makes Nico win this category is that he owns a set of armor. Percy does not. He uses armor in Capture the Flag but he doesn’t have a pair of his own. Nico is seen wearing a dark armor with a skull faceplate. Taking all of this together, Nico wins this category.

Nico: 1

Percy: 0

The next judging category comes in the shape of their demigod abilities. Nico and Percy are extremely powerful. But I believe Nico comes out on top. Let me explain. Nico and Percy both have incredible powers. Both have destructive powers at their disposal but what it comes down to is stealth. Percy has power to be afraid of. But Nico has the power you don’t expect. You can live in the least dangerous place on earth, no natural disasters or anything. But Nico can light a city ablaze from a far ways off. Level entire cities. But you may say Percy can do the same thing, and that may be true, but Nico can do it easier. Earthquakes, undead armies, shadows, etc. Percy has to use water or an earthquake. One: You can just turn on the weather channel and realize that there’s a freak storm coming your way. Two: Percy could cause an earthquake but children of Hades can do the same to a higher degree. And as I was saying earlier, Nico’s powers are stealthier than Percy’s. You can expect a massive wave, riptides (not the sword), etc. But you can’t expect a shadow to strangle you. Onto another point in this category. Both of them have healing powers. Percy has water, Nico has shadows. Shadows are everywhere whereas water is not. And the final point, Nico’s powers have more defensive uses than Percy. He can create shields of shadows, bone walls, stone walls, walls of fire, splits in the earth so no one can get to him. Flip. If he wanted to, he could make a skeleton warrior to give him his shield. Whereas Percy has walls of water and... well, just about nothing. Taking all of these together (and the fact that Nico’s powers center around death and that they are a lot more lethal), I’m giving this one to Nico.

Percy: 0

Nico: 2

For the last category, we have leadership. Which Percy wins easily. He is basically the leader of Camp Half-Blood. That’s why he was used for Hera’s plans. The only thing Nico leads is the dead which is him just using his powers. So of course I’m giving this to Nic- Just kidding, it’s Percy of course.

Nico: 2

Percy: 1

Note: I don’t think Percy is weak. I only think that Nico’s stronger. I’m not bias because, in all honesty, I don’t like Nico that much. I would say that Percy is the second most powerful demigod. Hey this is a really good post. I agree with a lot of this but there is a couple things that I would like to rebuttal. Personally for me I like to compare two characters in terms of a versus comparing power levels (DBZ lol) and skill. For instance, Percy is arguably the most powerful demigod of all time, with feats pushing towards island level, fought and beat gods on multiple occasions,and one of the best swordman of his age. Luke can pick locks and can fight better with a sword. You would think that with this slight description and when you compare the feats between you would think Percy would win practically every fight, tho you see look at look at the fights they have, you see that Luke won every fight they had except for that training one in TLT. I feel you can glean more out of a character if you put them together and see their nuanced power sets interact with each other Second to touch on equipment, I would say that Riptide is a “normal” blade. You see that nearly every thing Percy tries to cut in the various series, it is sliced in half pretty easily: the chains holding Artemis, metal, glass, ground and asphalt, you name it. In fact the only exception that I can think of is the chains holding down Thanatos in SoN. Also another is that the blade is ridiculously durable. It is the longest used and oldest weapon we know a demigod is using ( Riptide was given from Zoe to Hercules during his trial to grab the golden apples from atlas which predates what we know about Katoptris[piper’s knife] which the farthest we can trace it is before the Trojan War, where Menelaus have it to Helen of Troy.) Also to that fact that Percy is the only one who hasn’t had to switch out his primary weapon out of the core cast AND COA Percy doing some nutty stuff with it ( this man took the blade, strapped it into the ground on the Williamsburg bridge and pumped enough power to collapse it and riptide was absolutely fine) really speaks to how wild this sword is, and if nothing Celestial Bronze is fatal to a demigod so if Percy got a good shot on Nico it would still be probably as bad as a shot from nico. So to move on to power I would say that Percy is still the most powerful demigod. Strictly power wise, if we put them in a hypothetical arena where we merged both the ocean and the underworld (assuming nico can breathe under water: hypothetical)together Percy would win. His healing factor would be like Wolverine’s at that point, his physical speed and strength would overwhelm him and cam move the “fluid” around him powerful enough to crush humans. He could crush him in a heartbeat. If the were to fight on the surface, like Percy v Hyperion, he would still have his amps, but would only have his manipulation of the waves and hurricanes, which brings to another point: I don’t get why so say that his attacks are less stealthy. Percy has never telegraphed his attack while fighting, and never had any issues with tagging people. Like some of the stuff he’s done is STEALTHY tagging Ares in their fight, he knocking down multiple soldiers when he fought Hades etc. On the ground it a little bit more of interesting. If they defaulted to swordplay I would give the win to Percy. Nico is very much in percy’s League don’t get me wrong but I really have to look towards feats and, surprisely nico doesn’t have that many feats. He only really has the fight with Iapetus, fighting on the last night of the battle of Manhattan, and casually beating 6 demigods by himself without killer intent. Again any one of these feats would put Nico in top tier, probably beating most of the Second in combat, but doesn’t hold a candle to the feats of Percy. Power wise is alittle different. Straight raw power is still Percy cuz Nico hypothetically is pushing towards city level while Percy is at island level with his Mount St Helen feat. But when we get in knotty gritty of their kits, see a different story. Percy is afraid of using his power to nuke, while Nico has actually shown actually have formal train for his powers, while having a powerset allow for incapacitation, all the way to one shots. Of course Percy has his personal hurricane that he can some, where it can hold of 100 reviving amped ghosted legionaries and able to cancel and rag doll a big three level fighter So really the bottom line is that in a fight like this it depends on a lot of factors and multiple ways it can go. Sword fighting: Percy. Dry land: depends on how much water in the area and how crafty Percy is with it. Most times Nico unless Percy summons a hurricane. Ocean: Percy. Underworld: Nico. Percy is the most powerful demigod while Nico is the most skilled demigod. Ultimately, it’s one of those fight where it literally depends on how the writer writes it. Either one can reasonably win if the fight isn’t heavyily skewd in their favor. Thanks for listening to me ted talk.