Jason Grace

This is just going to be a discussion on who would win in a fight. This is Percy and Jason from the end of Blood of Olympus (none of the injuries or health conditions they had here are factored in). Jason gets his gladius and Percy gets Riptide

Current Location of fight: Beach (Water for Percy strong winds for Jason)

So, who would win? Keep debating here

Hey yall! What if Jason and Percy didn't lose their memories?

There have been many demigods in the Riordanverse. From children of Hecate to Hermes. But one thing seems to remain-they don't practice their powers. We've seen plenty of demigods trying to improve their combat skills but the only one who actually trained and tried to improve their powers was Hazel.

I saw a fanfic where Percy tried continuously lifting large quantities of water to strengthen his powers. I agree with this. I see the powers as a muscle- the more you use it, the stronger it gets. In this post, I'll go over what the potential for a few of the demigods powers could've been.

Piper

There isn't really much to say for Piper. She's already reached an incredibly high point with charmspeak. She even charmspoke Gaea which is very unrealistic. At this point, the rules of charmspeak don't apply to her. The rules where-

1. Doesn't work on very powerful people

2. Doesn't work on people who aren't attracted to you

3. Doesn't work on people who are aware you are trying to charmspeak them

So yeah, Piper already broke all of those. I guess she can practice to try to control Chaos himself.

Jason

There are a few powers which Jason could work on. His power of air is good, but it leaves a lot to be desired. He doesn't use it in the way Percy does- making shields, solidifying it, etc. But what if he could do that? Imagine Jason solidifying the air in front of him to make a shield. Or controlling the size of his gusts to knock down bigger enemies. Or just using air more frequently in combat.

Jason can also summon venti. What if he could summon more? Imagine Jason summoning thousands of venti and making a storm like that. Bye Bye whatever city he's in.

And of course, Jason could also try to strengthen the abilities he already has. Higher damage lightning bolts, using his electricity control more, and making larger storms than he already does.

Leo

Leo's increase of his powers isn't too interesting. Of course, he can get better with his smarts and mechanical powers. But what about his fire?

First, he can start out with the quantity of the fire he can make. He can surround his body, but why not more? What if Leo could surround himself with incredibly large quantities of fire?

Now, what about the heat of his fires? Surpassing the temperature of lava, or even the temperature of the sun. Imagine how much damage it would do if you were hit by sun temperature fire.

Frank

There isn't really much to say here. Frank's main power is shapeshifting into animals and creatures. But, he has to know them. Frank should study textbooks or zoos until there is no animal he doesn't know. Imagine how versatile he would be? Poison? Snake right up. Tanky animal? Elephant coming through. Surveilance? Fly buzzing your way. You get the gist.

Besides this, Frank could try to make his shapeshifting more fast and fluid. That would help a lot.

Annabeth

There isn't much for her. She can just get more intelligent

Hazel

One of Hazels powers is her geokinesis. She could increase the size of her tunnels and how fast she makes them. She could also increase how many gems she can control at once and how fast.

With her mist. she has a lot more to go. With more training. Hazel will be a force to reckon with. She'll be a full on reality warper. She'll also require less concentration to use the mist, making whatever she wants happen faster.

Percy

Percy has a lot of possibilities. To start, he has limited cryokinesis. If he exercises this ability, he'll be controlling large quantities of ice easily

Additionally, Percy could try controlling higher quantities of water. He's already summoned a 350+ ft wave. Why not bigger? He could be making full on Tsunamis. I could imagine Percy destroying entire cities.

Another interesting thing he could do is work on making objects with his water. In the Peter Johnson movies, a character similar to Percy Jackson made a trident with water. Imagine if Percy tried making water weapons or soldiers.

Now, what about bloodbending. This is considered an ability he can do by a lot of the fandom but it's not canon. Percy has controlled tears and poison with his powers so what's stopping him from controlling another liquid with water in it. The thing is, some liquids don't have a high percentage of water. If Percy keeps on practicing controlling liquids that have a small amount of water in them, eventually he could be controlling people from the inside effortlessly.

I hope you liked this post. What are your ideas? Are there any things I missed? Let me know in the comments.

Percy-How he actually is: Excessively loyal, calculating, quick-witted, sassy (at times), sarcastic, brave, reckless, smart, manipulative at times, and sometimes dark and ruthless.

How the fandom portrays him: Stupid, obsessed with Finding Nemo and The Little Mermaid, 'not your type' jokes to the point where it's annoying, 'Persassy'/always sassing someone, childish, dumb, and reckless.

Annabeth-

How she actually is: Smart, intelligent, quick-witted, fierce, analytical, judgmental, prideful, wise, possessive, easily jealous, rude at times, wise, audacious, and Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy.

How the fandom portrays her: sassy, funny, laid-back, tired, arrogant, vain (pride and vanity are different), rude at all times, mean, pushy, and strict.

Jason-

How he actually is: Noble, brave, a leader, sweet, humble, calm, patient, loyal, serious, funny at times, compassionate, honorable, just, kind, and modest.

How the fandom portrays him: Cold, rude, arrogant, humorous, laid-back, strict, merciless, unfriendly, mean, and honestly who knows the fandom changes his personality every three seconds.

Piper-

How she actually is: Aggressive, relaxed, selfish, rudely sarcastic, hypocritical, fake, obsessed, possessive, easily jealous, misogynistic, spoiled, manipulative, rude, short-tempered, arrogant, shallow, whiny, and Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason.

How the fandom portrays her: Fun, rebellious, iconic, laid-back, calm, hilarious, prankish, mischievous, funny, girly, humorously, sarcastic, sassy, chaotic, feministic, compassionate, understanding, and kind.

P.S: Piper is 'sarcastic' in a rude way intended to hurt whereas the fandom portrays her as the humorously sarcastic intended to be funny. And again- she didn't steal anything. She only got kicked out of the schools for being accused of stealing. She has literally never done anything remotely rebellious besides 'I cut my own hair!!111!' and the only time she ever canonically broke a rule, it wasn't even her choice. It was Jason's. And when did she ever care about others or talk to them about their problems again?

P.P.S: Annabeth has canonically broken rules. Piper hasn't.

Leo-

How he actually is: Funny, deep, laid-back, mischievous, insecure, angry, hurt, guilt-ridden, easygoing, very intelligent, energetic, upbeat, eccentric, flirty, brave, reckless, selfless, rude at times, emotional, sensitive, annoying, and quick-witted.

How the fandom portrays him: Flirty, funny, crazy, wired, jumpy, hyper, prankish, weird, annoying, and has no sense of emotions, depth, or insecurity whatsoever.

Frank-

How he actually is: Modest, sweet, insecure then confident, diligent, dutiful, brave, courageous, intelligent, cynical, soft, loyal, caring, sweet, courageous, selfless, and badass (he ripped a whole arrow out of his arm).

How the fandom portrays him: Innocent, pretty much blank, sensitive, either too emotional or completely emotionless, naïve, insecure, shy, fragile, and dramatic.

Hazel-

How she actually is: Confident, mature, compassionate, supportive, kind, guilt-ridden, creative, reliable, loyal, outgoing, caring, bright, comforting, reckless at times, and optimistic.

How the fandom portrays her: Always confused, naïve, innocent, simple, ignorant, sensitive, emotional, gullible, hates curse words, moral, virtuous, quiet, and introverted.

P.S: Besides Annabeth and the Stolls, Hazel is the only character who has canonically swore (multiple times). She literally had a tantrum and swore so much Leo was surprised. She does not hate curse words and is most definitely not 'innocent' (she was literally an accomplice to suicide and killed multiple monsters and a sorceress).

Reyna-

How she actually is: Strict, warm-hearted, thoughtful, brave, selfless, stubborn, independent, strong, stoic, dubious, unforgiving, intelligent, supportive, protective, confident, loyal, strong-willed, badass, and a leader.

How the fandom portrays her: Cold-hearted, unfriendly, shallow, rude, mean, emotionless, a romantic, jealous, dramatic, arrogant, merciless, cruel, and Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason Jason.

P.S: Everyone's giving shit to Reyna for being 'too strict'....honey, she's the Praetor. That's the equivalent of being the president. Everyone's hating her cause she 'told Lavinia to stop chewing gum so loud!!111!!!11!' but they were at a senate meeting. If- in the U.S- the president was talking to the Senate and a Senator was chewing gum so loudly the president could hear, you think the president would be mean for telling them to stop? Reyna has a formal and serious job...but people hate her cause she acts formal and serious??? Y'all make no damn sense.

P.P.S: Piper thought about Jason about 70% of the time in each of her chapters (I reread The Lost Hero. This is true). Reyna didn't even mention him. But Reyna is the Jason-obsessed one?

Nico-

How he actually is: Introverted, mysterious, lonely, sad, quiet, shy, naïve, unforgiving, independent, vengeful, insecure, unpredictable, strong-willed, resentful (or he holds grudges often), unreliable, and caring.

How the fandom portrays him: Creepy, vampire-like, grumpy, cruel, a desperate romantic who swoons and blushes over anything, a Percy fanboy, mean, and shallow OR cheerful, upbeat, happy, energetic, geeky, and obsessed with McDonalds (that was when he was a kid, not now), plus Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy, Will Will Will Will Will Will Will Will Will Will, and gay gay gay gay gay gay OR cute little adorable precious bean cinnamon roll.

P.S: Nico doesn't eat McDonalds. He uses the food from there to raise the dead. How did that translate into 'He LOVES eating there and loves all the cute little toys!!1111!!1!!'?

Rachel-

How she actually is: Calm, kind, charitable, selfless, brave, reckless, creative, intelligent, artsy, witty, open-minded, blunt, funny, laid-back, talkative, stubborn, helpful, quick-witted, humorous, and a volunteer.

How the fandom portrays her: Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy omg Annabeth is such a Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy jealous Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy Percy.

Let's start with the invalid reasons why the fandom hates Jason-

1.) He tried to replace Percy. Umm...no??? He didn't??? There was never even a single line where Jason said he wanted or was trying to 'replace Percy'. Percy was the male leader of Camp Half-Blood, a son of one of the Big Three gods, noble, brave, loyal, selfless, and powerful and Jason was the male leader of Camp Jupiter, a son of one of the Big Three gods, noble, brave, loyal, selfless, and powerful...and that automatically translates to Jason trying to 'replace' Percy? That's a result of Riordan's bad and lazy writing, not Jason trying to replace Percy. Riordan tried to make another Percy (and pretty much failed), but there was nothing in there that even hinted that Riordan wrote Jason with the intention to replace Percy.

2.) He was too perfect/was a Gary Stu. Actually, he wasn't. There was the problem with his fatal flaw- that Riordan said it was 'deliberation' or always thinking too deeply into things and hesitation, but only in the second chapter Jason was introduced in he jumped off the edge of the Grand Canyon to save a girl he didn't know when he didn't even know who he was (and didn't know about his ability to fly). That's the exact opposite of 'deliberative'- it's actually reckless- so that cancels out the hesitative flaw, but that wasn't the only flaw Jason had. He was also kind of insensitive at times (especially to Reyna and Nico), dense, and prideful (but not on a level like Annabeth, Percy, or Piper). As for the Gary Stu part, let's check off the Gary Stu traits Jason does have- multiple girls falling for him, super attractive, tragic backstory, and always being the brave and heroic one. Now here's some facts that cancel out the idea that Jason could be a Gary Stu- 1- He wasn't trusted by everyone. In MoA, Annabeth didn't trust Jason (and nor did others like Percy and most of Camp Half-Blood, including Chiron) until Jason actually proved that he was trustworthy and was really on their side. Mary Sues/Gary Stus/Terry Stus are automatically loved and trusted by everyone without ever earning that love and trust (like Piper was, especially when it came to dubious, closed-off characters like Reyna and Annabeth), but Jason actually worked for that trust and the other characters didn't trust and like him the moment they met him. 2- His flaws were called out. A god called out Jason's deliberation (even if it was a Faux Flaw), Annabeth in MoA and many others said that he acted 'too perfect' and was untrustworthy because of it and called out his density, Hazel called out his insensitivity in MoA (when Jason wanted to leave Nico with the twin giants), Piper called out his 'strictness' and seriousness, etc. While most of those, the characters only thought about his flaw, it was better than them not noticing his flaws at all and thinking he was a perfect angel. And 3- He gets injured multiple times. Mary Sues/Gary Stus/Terry Stus rarely or never get injured, and if they do, it's healed fairly quickly and/or completely forgotten about as if it never happened, but Jason got injured often and it wasn't immediately forgotten. All the hits to his head even made him get permanent, long-lasting damage (worse vision). Mary Sues/Gary Stus/Terry Stus would never have permanent damage or too-bad injuries.

3.) He's too overpowered. Uh....no. Jason had the same exact powers as Thalia and barely used them. Yes, Riordan glorifies him and states that he's extremely powerful a few times, but he does it in moderation and realistically. Jason is the son of Jupiter and has been training for twelve years. He is realistically powerful. Besides Hazel, he's magically the most powerful and is- or at least should be (ahem stop glorifying Percy ahem)- the best sword-fighter as he was at Camp Jupiter for twelve years, all of which year-round, plus a year at the Wolf House with Lupa. He's been training since he was two years old, he is definitely one of the most powerful characters. And even then, he fails and gets knocked out pretty often and Riordan barely comments on how powerful Jason is. Honestly, this fandom annoys the hell out of me a lot. How can y'all say that Jason is over-glorified when Riordan only commented on his powers and skills like two-to-three times and overpowered when he's been training for twelve years straight and is the son of Jupiter but when Riordan says that Percy is the most powerful demigod A MILLION GODDAMN TIMES even though he has only been training for less than ten months, y'all take it for gospel and immediately accept it? Be realistic please (and less biased).

4.) He was arrogant. I...literally do not remember any time Jason was arrogant. From what I remember, Jason was confident, but not arrogant. He was aware of what he was capable of and knew he was powerful, but he never exaggerated his own powers, skills, and importance. He might've been prideful at times and thought he was stronger than Percy- which he is- but other than that, he never showed any signs of being arrogant, narcissistic, or vain. Jason was confident- he knew he was powerful, important, and skilled, but never bragged or exaggerated it. Percy, Piper, and Annabeth on the other hand were arrogant- they thought they were more powerful, important, and skilled than they actually were, placed themselves on high pedestals they didn't deserve or earn, over-glorified themselves for the smallest things, and constantly thought that they were the best, or at least better than others.

Now the valid reasons to hate Jason that I never see anyone use for some reason. Like, if you're going to hate a character, and least hate them for good reasons:

1.) He forgot about Leo. In HoH, after the Argo II got Leo back from Ogygia, Jason made a mental note to check up on him cause he looked sad. But...that never happened. Jason completely forgot about the guy that's supposedly his friend and spent the rest of his time with Piper. You guys should definitely dislike a character who forgets about others, especially those who are upset and very clearly need someone to talk to.

2.) He voted to leave Nico for dead. Yes, he supported Nico when Nico was outed by Cupid, trusted Nico in the House of Hades, and kind of helped Nico feel more at home at Camp Half-Blood (to be honest, it was only Reyna, Hazel, and Will, Jason didn't really do much), but before Jason even knew who Nico was (all he knew what that he was Hazel's older brother), he voted to leave Nico with the twin giants for dead. He literally voted to let Nico die alone in a giant bronze jar with nothing but pomegranate seeds keeping him alive. Whoever votes for that is clearly an meanie (ahem Leo ahem).

3.) He was awful to Reyna. This one I actually see quite often. I see a lot of PJO/HoO fans dislike Jason because he was clearly aware that he and Reyna had some sort of romantic relationship (he felt like he was doing something by being with Piper just by remembering Reyna's name and literally nothing else) but never apologized to Reyna or made amends, never bothered to check up on her despite them being friends and Praetors for five years (dear Percabeth lovers and Jeyna haters- Jason and Reyna knew each other and were friends the same amount of time Percy and Annabeth were), asked Reyna if he could show his new girlfriend around REYNA'S city after he was gone for months without bothering to even say hi, and literally degraded Reyna for Piper's sake (like refusing to praise, admire, and/or compliment Reyna-even platonically- just so he wouldn't upset Piper and so he could compliment Piper instead), etc. He was terrible to Reyna even though he knew she was going through a tough time and that she was alone. He just made Reyna's situation worse. Reyna deserved way better.

4.) He left everything behind for a girl. He left his home, memories, past, friends, job, rank, everything just for a girl he's only known for a few weeks. Yes, Riordan, we should definitely teach younger readers that they should run away from everything they love and know and all of their problems the moment they find someone they're mildly attracted to. Perfect lesson, Riordan.

5.) His character arc and problems were boring. In my 'Fatal Flaw' Fanfiction Help chapter, I wrote about Jason's internal character problems and talked about 'Built-In Problems' (or problems already introduced to the character) and 'Hit-And-Miss Problems' (or problems the author randomly plops in the character just for the sake of giving them a character problem and making them more interesting). Jason's built-in problems that Riordan definitely should've expanded on and used included the deciding on whether or not he should stay with Piper or go back to Camp Jupiter (it should've been a way harder decision than he made it seem like, and he definitely should've chosen the latter), learning to adapt and live with the Greeks, learning that he doesn't always have to be perfect and that it's okay to make mistakes, and trying to find out what type of person he truly is (I'm positive he only became the Praetor because he was the son of the King of the gods and assumed that he had to follow in his footsteps. And on that note, please stop saying that Jason didn't feel at home at Camp Jupiter because he 'couldn't feel at home in an army' or that 'the Romans set him to way-too high standards and made him think he had to be perfect because of his parentage'. THIS ISN'T CANON. The Romans- nor Jason- never said anything about Camp Jupiter pushing him into being 'perfect' or a 'good leader'. That was most likely Jason's conscious choice because- as far as we know- Camp Jupiter doesn't give a single frick about parentage, but Camp Half-Blood is very biased and prejudiced. Camp Jupiter automatically accepted Nico and Hazel despite them being children of Hades/Pluto (while Camp Half-Blood consciously casted Nico aside before even knowing him), allowed Percy into camp even though he was a son of Poseidon (who wasn't well-respected by the Romans) and he was Greek (while Camp Half-Blood immediately treated Percy as different and more 'special' and important the moment he was claimed), let everyone of any parentage be strong leaders and warriors (while Camp Half-Blood is extremely biased and prejudiced against multiple gods and goddesses- especially Aphrodite- and stereotype every single one of them- Aphrodite kids as vain, shallow, weak, snobby, and mean, Hypnos kids as lazy, Dionysus kids as drunken weirdos, Ares kids as cruel meanies, Apollo kids as arrogant and conceited show-offs, etc.), and Camp Jupiter uses barracks based on cohorts for the sole purpose of no one having to sleep and live alone if they didn't have any siblings or other family members (while Camp Half-Blood didn't give a frick if anyone was alone or not). As for the 'can't feel at home in an army' part, Camp Jupiter is more home than Camp Half-Blood will ever be. They're inclusive and very accepting. They have families, schools, and a whole city while Camp Half-Blood just has cabins and a campfire. How is that anymore 'at home' than Camp Jupiter? The only difference is that Camp Jupiter actually has a structured army, but they treat their demigods more fairly than Camp Half-Blood ever has). And as for his character arc, he didn't change at all. He went from strict and serious to slightly less strict and serious. He went from 'I don't break any rules' (even though he literally crossed the Mediterranean Sea while he was Praetor- a very important rule- and became a fugitive to his own people after running away from them) to 'I went on a roof after hours, I'm so badass!!11!!11!!'. And the whole 'Am I more Greek or Roman' stuff was dumb, too. He just stereotyped all the Greeks and all the Romans, and you can't exactly choose your ethnicity, even if they're extremely similar. I'm Palestinian, but I'm not going to meet a bunch of Turkish people and say 'I'm more Turkish'. He didn't even change his horrible morals or apologize to anyone he hurt. His 'Hit-And-Miss Problems' epically failed and sucked, and so did his flat character arc and no development.

6.) He didn't have any personality. This is the main reason (out of the valid reasons) that people hate Jason. He was pretty much a blank slate. He didn't have any true motivations, hobbies or likes, good, deep relationships (even his relationship with Thalia was weak, his strongest relationships were with Reyna- which was forgotten- and his mom- which was toxic), defining or distinct personality traits, good messages or lessons, problems or good flaws, fears, relatability, etc. His personality traits consisted of honorable, compassionate, serious, a leader, noble, sweet, humble, loyal, just, and kind, but- a problem multiple characters in the HoO series have- most of those were completely cancelled out. 'Honorable' means worthy of honor- and while he was in most cases- he was also very insensitive- especially to Reyna, Nico, Hazel, and Leo- at times. 'Compassionate' means showing feelings of concern and sympathy to others, and again- he was insensitive quite often. He never showed any actual leader traits, to be honest, he wasn't very sweet at times, he was more proud than humble, he abandoned his own people twice so he isn't that loyal (he was also obviously not very loyal to Reyna), he isn't always the most moral person, and he definitely isn't the kindest character. Really, he's only serious and noble (and noble is based solely off social status, and the other definition of noble is virtuous, which- again- he isn't). So, yeah, Jason was an overall boring character. Most of his point of views revolved around Piper and complaining about 'Should I go to Camp Half-Blood or Camp Jupiter' (even though he could've easily just gone to Camp Jupiter for school then gone to Camp Half-Blood for summer). BUT! There is one thing that branches from this that I wanted to bring to light to. In my 'Reyna Avila Ramírez-Arellano Rant', I said that most of the other characters didn't have much personality, either. So- if you want to hate Jason for having no personality, you'd also have to hate Percy and Annabeth (in HoO), Hazel, Frank, Leo (in HoH and BoO, at least), Piper, Calypso, and multiple minor characters for the exact same reason. By the way- because I see this problem so often (in canon writing and in fanfictions), I will be making a Fanfiction Help chapter for personalities and a Personality Rant.

7.) Jiper. Obviously it wasn't Jason's fault that Piper manipulated him, all the blame goes to Piper for that, but the fact that he knew that there was a chance there was a girl he'd be leaving heartbroken if he went out with Piper, knew that it was wrong if he went out with Piper with no memory (and that it'd be 'messing with Piper's emotions' if he did after finding out that she had fake memories of them being in a relationship), and knew that it would be wrong if he created a relationship solely based on some random girl he didn't know having fake memories of them being in one but getting into a relationship with Piper anyways was awful. Besides that- he was honestly a damn creep. Jason is literally a creep. He only commented on Piper's appearance, literally called her a 'knock-out' and very obviously embarrassed her in front of everyone at Camp (sexualization who?) but didn't care, stared at her multiple times the first time he met her, and was LITERALLY TEMPTED TO KISS HER AFTER ONLY KNOWING HER FOR A FEW MINUTES. And yes, everything I wrote in this paragraph is canon (shown by multiple quotes in HoO, especially one I found in TLH that proves that all of this is true): "Jason wasn’t sure how to answer. He didn’t think he’d ever seen Piper before today, but he felt strangely guilty about it. He knew he shouldn’t be in this place. He shouldn’t befriend these people, and certainly he shouldn’t date one of them. Still…Piper had been holding his hand when he woke up on that bus. She believed she was his girlfriend. She’d been brave on the skywalk, fighting those venti, and when Jason had caught her in midair and they’d held each other face-to-face, he couldn’t pretend he wasn’t a little tempted to kiss her. But that wasn’t right. He didn’t even know his own story. He couldn’t play with her emotions like that." Jason wanted to kiss a girl he didn't even know just because he thought she was pretty and attractive- and almost did. If that doesn't scream 'Creep', I don't know what does. The fact that he knew that he shouldn't get into a relationship with Piper because it was wrong in a million different ways (and the fact that he only liked her because of her looks and was only sexually attracted to her) but got into a relationship with her anyways, never noticed anything awful she did (especially to him, Reyna, and many others, especially with the charmspeak- like, who in the entire universe would allow someone to force them into doing something against their will with their powers and know that they do it to them but never say anything and let them do it?), let his entire life revolve around Piper and Piper only, and never broke up with her was entirely his fault. Piper takes the blame for the manipulation and selfishness, Jason takes the blame for being a creepy dumbass.

8.) He's the result of white supremacy. Puerto Rican, Italian, Chinese-Canadian, Latino, African, Cherokee, Gay, Asexual, Pansexual, etc. characters, but the two most powerful, strongest, central, and best stars of the series are the two straight white guys. Yeah...that's definitely white (and straight) supremacy.

So... I am really fond of R.R. writing and he is amazing... But... Percy...

He used to be so. I don't know. In hand of the situation? Like he could get out of problems by him self, find solutions and trIck anyone into anything?

And in The blood of olympus he is absolutely (I hate this word but) useless?! Its just soooo frustrating! I mean!!! I am just so angry!

He can do so much better...

How did Jason and Nico remember their past? Like for example 'Jason felt his presence surprisingly familiar. He remembered one day when his mother said 'Never be afraid of a thunderstorm, Jason. That is your father, telling you he loves you'' and this 'Nico remembered Pietro, one of his neighbors in Italy. He had made it back from Mussolini's African campaign in one piece, but after shelling the African civilians with mustard gas, his mind was never the same' Maybe Nico did some digging, and Jason overtime got his memory back, but I don't see how they could remember that stuff from their past.

We all know that Jason, piper and Leo went on a quest in the lost hero, but with some people don’t know of is that Jason was supposed to die in the lost hero. When Hera/Juno finally got released out of her prison she changed into her true form to get rid of the monsters that were attacking Jason piper and Leo. But, Jason looked at hers true form and didn’t die, why didn’t he die?

Jason did not die because Percy, Frank and Hazel hadn’t released death yet.

Hi! Okay, so as you guys voted for elimination I'm going to eliminate the contestant with the least upvotes.

The person with the least upvotes is @Persassyjackson13 I'm really sorry @Persassyjackson13 Your project was awesome. Thank you so, so much for participating. I really appreciate it.

Okay, so the rest of you guys are in!

Here's how it works in case you guys forgot.

I'll post a particular theme and you all will try to come with a creative project (theory, aesthetic, fan art, etc) that relates to the theme.

This contest finishes next Friday

The theme is The Tragedy of Jason Grace

Rules:

-The project must be completely your own.

-Post your project as a reply to THIS post.

-Your project must be related to the theme.

-Please do vote for someone else's project (there is no vote limit)

Good luck!

*NO NEW CONTESTANTS ALLOWED*

What if in HoO (#1) Annabeth had not dreamed to find the one with one shoe?

Vote for you you think would be eliminated FIRST.

Standard gear. Morals off. No Blessing of Ares for Frank. There is a small pond for Percy.

First character to get 4 votes will be eliminated. Then the next one with 4 votes gets eleiminated next etc.

Votes from previous rounds do not count.

I’ll be checking votes regularly.

I’m auto-eliminating Piper because she could theoretically charmspeak all of them into thing themselves up. Or she could theoretically be attacked and stand no chance. She’s too unpredictable l.

Anyway, I’ll be crossing off eliminated characters:

What do u guy think the seven plus nico and reyna’s hogwarts house would be?

None of the demigods there are really considered weak, since they all have their strengths and flaws. I guess it just depends on how much Rick Riordan shows their flaws and how he portrays them. In the prophecy of Seven, I guess the weakest would be Frank. Don’t get me wrong, he’s an amazing fighter, and also has awesome capabilities (ie. shooting an arrow of a ship at a moving target and hitting it), and also has some sick shape-shifting abilities. However, I guess his weakness comes in at the point where his life literally depends on a piece of firewood. If someone was to burn it (Leo, I’m watching you) and set it on fire, he’s dead. Literally. He also is pretty insecure and has a fear of fire just because of that. When that kind of weakness shows, it can really just limit how much you can do with the powers you have. However, if we weren’t talking about the Seven, it would have to go to Octavian. The dude needs to chill out and take a break. Not only he an egotistical spoiled brat, he’s just blinded by his own “amazingness” and can’t see past that. That is definitely a weakness that stands out, and that also is what makes me feel that he is the weakest demigod. That was long.

But then again...........

I hate to say this but…

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It may have to be Leo. Leo is 1000000000000000% one of my favorite character and I hate to say it. Well, none of the demigods are considered weak, but Leo lacks skills that demigods should have. He cannot fight, but he really is the master of running away. He may rely on his fire powers too much. However, he is an incredible mechanic and he is very smart and quick when it comes to these things. Leo and Percy are my favorite characters and it physically HURT to say that Leo is the weakest.

I need some help on deciding which one so could yall give me your opinion.