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  • Someone suggested this fight because they are often hated, lmao.

    Hercules is the demigod son of Zeus who was given godhood for completing lots of deeds or as Percy says was the Starbucks of Greece.

    Piper McLean is the demigod daughter of Aphrodite and she has the power of charmspeak.

    Who will win in a fight? Vote here.

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    • Hasn't Piper already defeated Hercules with her super dangerous food shooter though

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    • crying @ super dangerous food shooter her cornucopia?

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    • Piper would win because she is just plain awesome. Hercules literally thought the world of himself and thus would be easy to defeat. I'm sure someone could lift up a mirror and he'd see his reflection and get distracted. Lol.

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    • Piper!

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    • (Grudgingly)I admit Piper would win(and already has).

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    • These are to the death right? If so, then Piper has an unfair advantage every time she is put into a battle because (if the opponent(s) can't already resist charmspeak) she can literally just make them kill themselves (something that she should probably have done during every battle she was in)

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    • Whoa, Whoa! Isn't Hercules immune to Piper's charmspeak since he's a god? Why is everyone saying Piper would win?

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    • Ea225225 wrote:
      Whoa, Whoa! Isn't Hercules immune to Piper's charmspeak since he's a god? Why is everyone saying Piper would win?

      Because Piper is bae.


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    • didn't Hercules say that such magic(charmspeak) is useless against him

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    • Ea225225 wrote:
      Whoa, Whoa! Isn't Hercules immune to Piper's charmspeak since he's a god? Why is everyone saying Piper would win?

      He would have to be. I'm pretty sure he said he was made into a god because he didn't go all Percy Jackson and decline. If gods were susceptible to charmspeak, then that means that Drew or Piper or anyone with charmspeak could control the gods if they tried hard enough and were strong enough. 

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    • uh you guys realize Hercules is immortal right? Plus Piper has never beaten him because 1-he is immortal and cant be killed and 2-she just surprised him by drenching him in fruit

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    • you know charmspeak is useless against him because why would they need a quest to get past him in the first place. if it worked she could have simply asked to move onwards and BAM no quest needed.

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    • Mark of Athena, anyone?

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    • Flameingo wrote: uh you guys realize Hercules is immortal right? Plus Piper has never beaten him because 1-he is immortal and cant be killed and 2-she just surprised him by drenching him in fruit

      She can do it again. Our point is this fight has already happened in canon and the definitive winner is Piper. Itsd not who kills the other, but who wins in battle.

      TheKorraFanatic wrote:
      Ea225225 wrote:
      Whoa, Whoa! Isn't Hercules immune to Piper's charmspeak since he's a god? Why is everyone saying Piper would win?
      Because Piper is bae.


      Lol your like the only one who likes Piper.

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    • Oceanhalo12 wrote:

      Flameingo wrote: uh you guys realize Hercules is immortal right? Plus Piper has never beaten him because 1-he is immortal and cant be killed and 2-she just surprised him by drenching him in fruit

      She can do it again. Our point is this fight has already happened in canon and the definitive winner is Piper. Itsd not who kills the other, but who wins in battle.


      TheKorraFanatic wrote:
      Ea225225 wrote:
      Whoa, Whoa! Isn't Hercules immune to Piper's charmspeak since he's a god? Why is everyone saying Piper would win?
      Because Piper is bae.

      Lol your like the only one who likes Piper.

      Sadly, yes. I am a rarity. But there are a few other Piper fans, like Speedit and Annabeth. :)

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    • Is the cornucopia allowed? If you take the cornucopia away, then Piper can only rely on her charmspeak. Piper may be a skilled swordfighter, but she is no match for Hercules in fighting skills alone.

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    • It must be Piper, but then i think about all Hercules' experience and uh

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    • VishwaUser wrote:
      Is the cornucopia allowed? If you take the cornucopia away, then Piper can only rely on her charmspeak. Piper may be a skilled swordfighter, but she is no match for Hercules in fighting skills alone.

      I think the cornucopia is allowed. Now that I think about, Hercules might be prepared for a food attack this time around.

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    • Hercules, most likely. She didn't defeat him in MoA, she startled him

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    • seriously though. when it comes to fights against gods, no mortal should ever be able to win if they are seriously intending to kill them. I think Rick put himself in a plot stupidity corner with divine forms because no mortal could ever truly win against them.

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    • Gods have their form split in different places. That probably makes them weak

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    • Utkar22 wrote:
      Gods have their form split in different places. That probably makes them weak


      yeah but they don't have to be. that's the why it's unreasonable to place a god against a mortal in a true "I'm going to murder you" kind of fight.

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    • ^Well its probably a gods pride that stops them. It wouldn't really be very 'cool' to just atomize all your opponents rather than actually fight them. And Rick didn't really 'choose' godly forms, they exist in actual myth.

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    • they do that is true. Although I can only recall Dionysis's birth mentioning it. I mean he could've just not mentioned them and not used them. wouldn't have issues that ways. though pride is probably a point and who knows what they planned to do outside of the fight. I'm guessing right up until the end Percy was never supposed to die. after all everyone thought it would come down to his decision to raze or save Olympus.

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    • Is Hercules a god or demigod here. If he is a god, then he will wreck Piper because charmspeak doesn't really work on him. Otherwise, unfortunately, Piper will win.

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    • Hercules has strength that Piper is nowhere NEAR. Infact, not even Percy, Jason, or Nico could rival it

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    • ^True. Weeeell they could rival it with powers, but no, not physical strength.

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    • ah but, pipers only apparent powers don't work on him. a walking jedi mind trick isn't very useful against those they can't affect. I mean combat skills aren't all that bad but, hercules is one of the greats. massive strength wouldn't do him much good if he couldn't fight well.

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    • Hercules would win for a variety of reasons. Firstly, Hercules dwarfs (and I mean DWARFS) Piper in terms of experience. Piper had a little less than a year of experience. Hercules has 3,000 years. And Piper quite frankly is not bringing anything to the table Hercules can't deal with. Hercules is high resistant (perhaps immune) to charmspeak. For those that will say: "But Piper charmspeaked Gaea!" I say this. 1) Gaea was separated from her domain, and apparently suffered a huge loss of power do to that. I mean, she was destroyed by an explosion that can't pack more than a nuke's worth of firepower. 2) Even if Piper's charmspeak is nigh omnipotent (which it isn't), she has to concentrate. Those are precious seconds where Hercules can stomp the ground and create an earthquake, hurl objects like missles, or do a simple Thunderclap.

      By the way, the Cornocopia only worked in MoA because Hercules was taken by surprise. An all out Hercules would decimate Piper before she could blink.

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    • Zandris Hugal wrote:
      Hercules would win for a variety of reasons. Firstly, Hercules dwarfs (and I mean DWARFS) Piper in terms of experience. Piper had a little less than a year of experience. Hercules has 3,000 years. And Piper quite frankly is not bringing anything to the table Hercules can't deal with. Hercules is high resistant (perhaps immune) to charmspeak. For those that will say: "But Piper charmspeaked Gaea!" I say this. 1) Gaea was separated from her domain, and apparently suffered a huge loss of power do to that. I mean, she was destroyed by an explosion that can't pack more than a nuke's worth of firepower. 2) Even if Piper's charmspeak is nigh omnipotent (which it isn't), she has to concentrate. Those are precious seconds where Hercules can stomp the ground and create an earthquake, hurl objects like missles, or do a simple Thunderclap.

      By the way, the Cornocopia only worked in MoA because Hercules was taken by surprise. An all out Hercules would decimate Piper before she could blink.

      Exactly

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    • Still can't believe Hercules is losing to Piper McShit. Why do people think Piper can win again?

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    • probably because they haven't read this thread.

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    • ^True.

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    • Zandris Hugal wrote:
      Hercules would win for a variety of reasons. Firstly, Hercules dwarfs (and I mean DWARFS) Piper in terms of experience. Piper had a little less than a year of experience. Hercules has 3,000 years. And Piper quite frankly is not bringing anything to the table Hercules can't deal with. Hercules is high resistant (perhaps immune) to charmspeak. For those that will say: "But Piper charmspeaked Gaea!" I say this. 1) Gaea was separated from her domain, and apparently suffered a huge loss of power do to that. I mean, she was destroyed by an explosion that can't pack more than a nuke's worth of firepower. 2) Even if Piper's charmspeak is nigh omnipotent (which it isn't), she has to concentrate. Those are precious seconds where Hercules can stomp the ground and create an earthquake, hurl objects like missles, or do a simple Thunderclap.

      By the way, the Cornocopia only worked in MoA because Hercules was taken by surprise. An all out Hercules would decimate Piper before she could blink.

      Huh, he did nothing but laze around and guard Olympus and get a nice little cranky attitude in his span of 3000 years.

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    • Laze around? He warded off major threats to the homeland of the gods. Furthermore, he gave demigods quests whenever they wanted to go into the Ancient Lands, demonstrating an active knowledge of th capabilities of demigods and of Monsters themselves.

      Name for me one thing Piper can do that comes close to Hercules. Just one. (And don't mention the cornucopia, that's already been discussed).

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    • Ea225225 wrote:
      Still can't believe Hercules is losing to Piper McShit. Why do people think Piper can win again?


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    • Looks like Piper is going to win her first individual fight ! Btw, you guys do realise that the corncupia was sacrificed by Piper to those two sons of Ares and Aphrodite in Blood of Olympus ?

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    • King Prithviraj II wrote: Looks like Piper is going to win her first individual fight ! Btw, you guys do realise that the corncupia was sacrificed by Piper to those two sons of Ares and Aphrodite in Blood of Olympus ?

      Not really, she had already betean Silena Beauregard before. But still . . . this is a battle that Piper by no means, deserves to win. I still shocked that people actually think Piper will win. Hercules is IMMUNE to charmspeak, plus he is 10 times more skilled than Piper, and plus he's a GOD and he is immortal. Hercules can't lose even if he tried.

      If Piper even tried to punch Hercules, she probably break her hand or something.

      I want to think that the reason why Piper is winning is because of popularity . . . only to remember that Piper is as beloved as a nice looking trash can!

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    • I can't believe Piper is actually going to win! Hercules couldn't lose even if he did nothing because he is immortal.

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    • Sebastienxu467 wrote: I can't believe Piper is actually going to win! Hercules couldn't lose even if he did nothing because he is immortal.

      Exactly

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    • Considering how many people hate Piper on principal, the results here are horrifying.

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    • Blazenite104 wrote: Considering how many people hate Piper on principal, the results here are horrifying.

      Lol, yeah

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    • Ea225225 wrote:

      Blazenite104 wrote: Considering how many people hate Piper on principal, the results here are horrifying.

      Lol, yeah

      There are Piper fans who drool over her, some in this very wiki. Or else how do you think she manages to get votes ?

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    • Maybe a large number of users, who aren't active on the forums, voted for Piper.

      Or people who didn't want Hercules to win.

      Or people who decided to troll by voting for Piper even if they thought Hercules would win.

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    • I imagine it's the not wanting Hercules to win based on how he is portrayed as a bitter, spiteful man (even if he does have good reasons). Personally I enjoy his flaws. He's not perfect and even heroes can break under pressure.

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    • - "Still can't believe H***** is losing to *****. Why do people think ***** can win again? "

      - "this is a battle that ***** by no means, deserves to win. I still shocked that people actually think ***** will win...

      I want to think that the reason why ***** is winning is because of popularity . . . only to remember that ***** is as beloved as a nice looking trash can!"

      - "I can't believe ***** is actually going to win! H***** couldn't lose even if he did nothing because he is immortal."

      - "Considering how many people hate ***** on principal, the results here are horrifying."

      -"There are ***** fans who drool over her, some in this very wiki. Or else how do you think she manages to get votes ?"

      No offense intended to anyone, but the reactions of many users reminds me of another versus battle that happened in real life last November... (I wasn't involved remotely of course. I was on the opposite side of the world...)

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    • Trump vs. Clinton?

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    • Looked similar to that on the surface. Like so many reactions saying they couldn't believe the results.

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    • I can't though. Piper is literally the most despised character in the forums, which means there must be an obscene amount of either hate for Hercules or complete misunderstanding of the character for Piper to actually be able to win.

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